Avengers: Endgame (2019)

Started by Araan Eligis68 pages

I agree that this film handled Hulk's character really badly. For one, the first impression we have of his new persona felt comical in the way that you would usually find in an alternate timeline version of character imo - it seemed so unserious that it didn't really feel real to me, and not fitting for the primary/permanent version of the character.

And it's absolutely true that he didn't really have a standout dramatic moment in the film. That they used him to bring back the people that Thanos turned to dust doesn't really count imo - the scene wasn't made to feel very dramatic (compare it for example to when Iron Man uses the IG to destroy Thanos and the rest of his army), and it wasn't really about the Hulk either except in a technical sense (that he was perhaps the only one that could survive doing it).

Infinity War actually did something interesting with the character, but by raising questions about why Hulk was refusing to come out, and highlighting what was missing by his absence and creating the expectation that when he finally returned it would be something pivotal (in a Hulk Smash kind of way). EG essentially ignored the character's most pressing conflict, and instead resolved a more remote (not to say that it wasn't more fundamental) one.

https://youtu.be/-7wgC0-xOZE

The russos answer a few cool questions and a buncha silly shit.

Originally posted by Araan Eligis
I agree that this film handled Hulk's character really badly.

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Originally posted by Araan Eligis
I agree that this film handled Hulk's character really badly. For one, the first impression we have of his new persona felt comical in the way that you would usually find in an alternate timeline version of character imo - it seemed so unserious that it didn't really feel real to me, and not fitting for the primary/permanent version of the character.

And it's absolutely true that he didn't really have a standout dramatic moment in the film. That they used him to bring back the people that Thanos turned to dust doesn't really count imo - the scene wasn't made to feel very dramatic (compare it for example to when Iron Man uses the IG to destroy Thanos and the rest of his army), and it wasn't really about the Hulk either except in a technical sense (that he was perhaps the only one that could survive doing it).

Infinity War actually did something interesting with the character, but by raising questions about why Hulk was refusing to come out, and highlighting what was missing by his absence and creating the expectation that when he finally returned it would be something pivotal (in a Hulk Smash kind of way). EG essentially ignored the character's most pressing conflict, and instead resolved a more remote (not to say that it wasn't more fundamental) one.

Hulk was the least worked character in IW and EG. Even lesser characters like Groot, Gamora, and RR had better character development.

I found that do be disappointing.

However, I think they did it on purpose, considering that there is still a long way for Hulk to grow, whereas they needed to conclude IM's and Cap's storyline and begin closing for Thor.

Not according to the Russos who explained their choices which I explained before I saw the commentary. I am quite great at understanding film so I cannot fault the less fortunate.

Hulk got plenty of things to do, plenty of screen time.

Not just mindlessly punching things this time, which was a nice change.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk got plenty of things to do, plenty of screen time.

Not just mindlessly punching things this time, which was a nice change.

That is the point but battleboard weirdos actually claimed the Russos hated him unable to see the character development. He evolved past IW whereas Thor devolved. Thor was openly sobbing while the Hulk was trying to comfort him yet the same clueless fella claimed that is proof of Hulk hatred. I wish they could process and digest a film like us. We have plenty of hulk smashing prior to and will in the future.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not according to the Russos who explained their choices which I explained before I saw the commentary. I am quite great at understanding film so I cannot fault the less fortunate.

😂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk got plenty of things to do, plenty of screen time.

Not just mindlessly punching things this time, which was a nice change.

👆 Yeah, Hulk has had enormous personality changes since AoU.

Perhaps Marvel is setting for the introduction of Professor Hulk or WWH.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
👆 Yeah, Hulk has had enormous personality changes since AoU.

Perhaps Marvel is setting for the introduction of Professor Hulk or WWH.

*set

Professor Hulk is in End Game

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
👆 Yeah, Hulk has had enormous personality changes since AoU.

Perhaps Marvel is setting for the introduction of Professor Hulk or WWH.

We see professor or smart hulk in EG. Wow. 😂

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*set
We see them introduce that version of Hulk in EG yet he is clueless hence why someone should not watch these films without their parents.

Indeed, Professor/Smart Hulk was one of the main reveals, I don't know how someone could miss that.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Indeed, Professor/Smart Hulk was one of the main reveals, I don't know how someone could miss that.
I thought it was so obvious especially if you read comics to pick up on that. Oh well.

😂

I don’t think certain people have read comics before

Originally posted by Araan Eligis
I agree that this film handled Hulk's character really badly. For one, the first impression we have of his new persona felt comical in the way that you would usually find in an alternate timeline version of character imo - it seemed so unserious that it didn't really feel real to me, and not fitting for the primary/permanent version of the character.

And it's absolutely true that he didn't really have a standout dramatic moment in the film. That they used him to bring back the people that Thanos turned to dust doesn't really count imo - the scene wasn't made to feel very dramatic (compare it for example to when Iron Man uses the IG to destroy Thanos and the rest of his army), and it wasn't really about the Hulk either except in a technical sense (that he was perhaps the only one that could survive doing it).

Infinity War actually did something interesting with the character, but by raising questions about why Hulk was refusing to come out, and highlighting what was missing by his absence and creating the expectation that when he finally returned it would be something pivotal (in a Hulk Smash kind of way). EG essentially ignored the character's most pressing conflict, and instead resolved a more remote (not to say that it wasn't more fundamental) one.

nobody cares about hulk.. he was handled fine

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
nobody cares about hulk.. he was handled fine
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https://youtu.be/P05f-I7CwXc

Avengers Endgame trailer done in the style of Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Really funny shit.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
nobody cares about hulk.. he was handled fine

Not to some, he wasn't.

Hulk was nerfed beyond forgiveness.