Avengers: Endgame (2019)

Started by Robtard68 pages

Most here probably already know this, but: Smart Hulk was originally set to bust out of the Hulk-Buster armor and then curbstomp Cull Obsidian in IF, but it tested poorly with test audiences.

Should have done that, imo

^ Would have been miles better yeah. And set up nicely with how Hulk wouldnt show the first time against Cull.

But seems the Russos were just looking for excuses to sideline Hulk. I mostly agree with this analysis:

https://youtu.be/W8JsFRUmth8

Actually, they've said they removed smart Hulk from IW because that moment of victory would have been tone deaf in relation with the ultimate loss at the end of the movie.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Actually, they've said they removed smart Hulk from IW because that moment of victory would have been tone deaf in relation with the ultimate loss at the end of the movie.

yup

we discussed it before

rob is late to the party as usual

he should go back to his GDF friends

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Actually, they've said they removed smart Hulk from IW because that moment of victory would have been tone deaf in relation with the ultimate loss at the end of the movie.

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Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Actually, they've said they removed smart Hulk from IW because that moment of victory would have been tone deaf in relation with the ultimate loss at the end of the movie.

No that was their excuse. Remember Banner actually did beat Cull anyway.

Its just that the Russos wanted to sideline Hulk.

Whoever holds the soul stone is prevented from dying correct?

Thanos was trasported into the soul stone when he snapped his fingers to avoid being one of the randomly chosen to die.

That obviously was not intentional.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No that was their excuse. Remember Banner actually did beat Cull anyway.

Its just that the Russos wanted to sideline Hulk.

It makes sense for the evolution of the character but you do not care about the character. Just smash stuff in every film. We get it you hate the Russos. Hulk proves the powerhouse in the only original avenger that can survive the fear which included Thor. Told you so.

Yeah made total sense for Hulk to be the only Avenger who sat on the bench. Like didnt get into a fight at all Lmao.

Clearly Hulk is the Useless Avenger. Powerhouse my ass! Ant-Man has better strength feats Lmao

I don't think the Russos realised (until it was too late) juz how many Avengers actually had a chance against Thanos without the gauntlet.

And Hulk being the most aggressive & uncontrollable would've stole the spotlight.

Strange or Wong or any of the sorcerers could have decapitated Thanos just like what happened to Cull Obsidian's hand.

I dont get what the obsession with people that wanted Hulk to fight Thanos again for some type of redemption for Hulk. Hulk has never beaten Thanos in the comics and for them to show Hulk beating down Thanos just to fan service Hulk is stupid.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Hulk has never beaten Thanos in the comics

Marvel Zombies say hello vin

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Marvel Zombies say hello vin

ha 👆

Marvel Zombies are OP as fuk. I remember thinking how dumb it was when they bit through Surfers impenetrable skin.

Yeah, it had its WTF moments, while at the same time trying to follow RL physics...

Like when Wolverine's adamantium arm bones detached from his rotten flesh.

Some of the later Marvel Zombies books were good too from Fred Van Lente.

Originally posted by Impediment
Strange or Wong or any of the sorcerers could have decapitated Thanos just like what happened to Cull Obsidian's hand.

The biggest argument was that Strange was still learning & didn't realise he could use the portals as a weapon. 🙄

I don't think they should have had Hulk transform in Infinity War; it would have wasted a great moment.

Personally, I just wanted something, anything to address the fact that in the first two movies (and it was at least referenced in Ragnarok), that the Hulk is an actual monster. It's something Banner doesn't want to be, because when he's the Hulk, stuff gets broken as ****.

Maybe even the moment Scarlet Witch had when she made Thanos afraid enough to call down artillery, they could have made that be during a fight with a truly Savage Hulk, but that would have taken away something from Witch, and she needs all the help she can get at this point.

Making Hulk a comedy character dilutes him, imo, and I hope that the She-Hulk show brings him back to being a cautionary tale.

Originally posted by Inhuman
I dont get what the obsession with people that wanted Hulk to fight Thanos again for some type of redemption for Hulk. Hulk has never beaten Thanos in the comics and for them to show Hulk beating down Thanos just to fan service Hulk is stupid.

Because the original Trio all fought Thanos, but its actually a Quadri, which the Russos seem to forget.

Now I dont get why everyone is so cool with Hulk being the only player on the bench for almost 2 entire films. Didnt have to fight Thanos (though did feel his absence missing in that OG Avengers vs Thanos fight). Could have been Cull Obsidian. But clearly that was more of a job for Ant-Man 😬

As for Hulk never having beaten Thanos in the comics... thats kind of irrelevant given how many characters have already had him beat in the movies who also were no match for him in the comics.