MCU Thor vs MCU Hulk compared

Started by CPT Space Bomb9 pages

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So Thor bled in Avengers 1 from a single punch but a ground n pound from the same character all of a sudden has no effect? Similarly Hela had Thor at deaths door, had stabbed him multiple times with Odins spear, beat him to pulp and had him limp yet as soon as the Odin vision happened he seemed to be at 100% again. Odin clearly aided him in both situations either by empowering him directly or giving him a jolt so his lightning could do the rest.
Hela never Had Thor at death's door lol. She was whooping him sure. But Hela would absolutely demolish Hulk even worse so that doesn't matter. Thor > Hulk in every area besides strength.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So Thor bled in Avengers 1 from a single punch but a ground n pound from the same character all of a sudden has no effect? Similarly Hela had Thor at deaths door, had stabbed him multiple times with Odins spear, beat him to pulp and had him limp yet as soon as the Odin vision happened he seemed to be at 100% again. Odin clearly aided him in both situations either by empowering him directly or giving him a jolt so his lightning could do the rest.
It's none of those silly excuses my friend, if you actually watched the movie you'd know those scenes are meant to show that Thor doesn't need Mjolnir to channel his true power.

Odin says a much during the whole 'are you Thor the God of hammers?' conversation... 🤦🏻

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So Thor bled in Avengers 1 from a single punch but a ground n pound from the same character all of a sudden has no effect? Similarly Hela had Thor at deaths door, had stabbed him multiple times with Odins spear, beat him to pulp and had him limp yet as soon as the Odin vision happened he seemed to be at 100% again. Odin clearly aided him in both situations either by empowering him directly or giving him a jolt so his lightning could do the rest.

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Hela never had Thor at deaths door.

Are you unfamiliar with fiction? A hero realizing his hidden true power and escalating to a new level is a very popular trope. The most popular anime in history, DBZ is built on it..

You're a Hulk fan, the entire shtick in comics is him getting stronger as he gets angrier.

Odin giving him a jolt? Odin had moved on and was a vision. This is grade A, prime cut mental gymnastics.

I think I understand your confusion. The reality that Odin was a motivator and didn't magically empower Thor causes cognitive dissonance because you'd have to acknowledge that Thor > Hulk.

I've read the script, I can even post the link. It was Thor accessing his internal power that he's been holding back all these centuries.

Thor also instantly healed when he touched Stormbreaker and when his mortal version died and touched Mjolnir. When the lighting crackles, and his eyes glow, whatever hurt him previously is irrelevant, and you're about to get an ass kicking. Hulk learned that himself.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
@Quanchi

The Russos said that the only reason Thor didn't kill Thanos was because he wanted him to know Thor was the one who delivered the finishing blow. He is very much capable of killing the Titan.

Its because he didn’t aim for the head. It says right in the film. He even plunges it in further. He failed. His sneak attacked failed once more. Thor failed Thanos prevailed over everyone.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Enough with your blah, blah, blah, talk...

If you cant back up Hulk having greater durability than Thor with feats, then you have nothing more than talk...

Thor has the single greatest feat of durability a hero in the MCU has demonstrated in his favor...

Check it out for yourself:

It isn’t by exclusive feats it’s by comparisons so we can see how they match up. Hulk has fared better. Naturally. This is pretty common sense, feat boy. It’s the lowest form of debating.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Excellent, so show me Hulk withstanding the force of a neutron star...

Go ahead...

I'll wait...

🙂

That doesn’t prove anything. You continue use to repeat yourself not rebutting my irrefutable points.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It's none of those silly excuses my friend, if you actually watched the movie you'd know those scenes are meant to show that Thor doesn't need Mjolnir to channel his true power.

Odin says a much during the whole 'are you Thor the God of hammers?' conversation... 🤦🏻

D. Thor believes without his hammer he’s weaker. He didn’t believe Odin.

@Quanchi

That's what I mean. If he had aimed at the head, he would've killed Thanos. The Russo's confirmed. You said Thor was delusional, and could never kill Thanos or some such.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
@Quanchi

That's what I mean. If he had aimed at the head, he would've killed Thanos. The Russo's confirmed. You said Thor was delusional, and could never kill Thanos or some such.

I said Thor believed he would. He didn’t. I don’t care about what ifs. I care about what is. Thor failed thus he was delusional and wrong despite having a powerful weapon and a sneak attack. It’s like saying I can hit the game winner miss it but still have the ability to hit the shot. When the stakes were highest he failed.

^ Funny, I remember debating with you in a Thor vs. Hulk thread years ago when the first Avengers movie came out. I mentioned how Hulk cheapshot Thor twice in that movie, once when Thor was trying to calm Hulk down and another when they brought down a leviathan together.

You completely disagreed with those shots being cheapshots, yet now you're harping about a Thor surprise attack?

Originally posted by FrothByte
^ Funny, I remember debating with you in a Thor vs. Hulk thread years ago when the first Avengers movie came out. I mentioned how Hulk cheapshot Thor twice in that movie, once when Thor was trying to calm Hulk down and another when they brought down a leviathan together.

You completely disagreed with those shots being cheapshots, yet now you're harping about a Thor surprise attack?

Bump the thread. Are you saying this wasn’t a cheapshot out of nowhere ? Thanos still previewed but come on man.

*prevailed

^ I'm saying you sure have some double standards. Also, why can't I quote your posts?

Anyway, the lightning attack was a surprise attack but the SB throw certainly wasn't.

Originally posted by FrothByte
^ I'm saying you sure have some double standards. Also, why can't I quote your posts?

Anyway, the lightning attack was a surprise attack but the SB throw certainly wasn't.

No, I don’t but I’d like you to link the thread. So you agree he used a cheapshot and still failed. One on one Thanos with the ig annihilates Thor with the axe. Do you disagree?

^ I think IG Thanos can defeat SB Thor as long as Thanos used the IG smartly. But he can't overpower Thor in a direct weapon vs. weapon confrontation as we already saw what happens when he tries that.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Um, Lol! Momentum? This isn't baseball. Thor smashed Hulk across the arena and severely damaged the wall. Thor used his SKILL and waited for the perfect opportunity to blast Hulk. He was also CLEARLY HOLDING BACK as he kept saying stuff like "You're embarrasing me in front of all these people" and "I know you're in there Banner, don't worry I'll get you out". Thor wasn't trying to Hurt Hulk until Hulk pissed him off enough to make him Go GOD MODE. Then Thor was wrecking his shit and had to be cheap shotted by Grandmaster for Hulk to "Win" Give me a break, it's clear as day that after Ragnarok and IW, Thor is greater than Hulk in pretty much every category. I'll concede Strength to Hulk though.

Except it was, exactly like baseball Thor pitched Hulk good. You failed to acknowledge the several hammer shots Thor landed after that including leaping ones and it never had close to the same kind of affect. Thor talking trash doesn't mean he was holding back lol wtf? I can talk shit to you and still try and take your head off. What do you think Thor even meant by those words? That he's trying to knock Hulk the phuck out.

Hulk is stronger and more durable aswell. As already been mentioned, in direct comparison Thor was hurt after the arena fight and Hulk wasn't despite taking most of the hits being dished out.

Thor has the skill and versatility of course.

Originally posted by FrothByte
^ I think IG Thanos can defeat SB Thor as long as Thanos used the IG smartly. But he can't overpower Thor in a direct weapon vs. weapon confrontation as we already saw what happens when he tries that.
Yes, he can. The same beam he used that iron man blocked isn’t up to the gauntlets potential. Don’t be silly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn’t prove anything. You continue use to repeat yourself not rebutting my irrefutable points.

It proves that Hulk has no feat on par with tanking a Neutron Star...

You have no feat from Hulk that compares to King Thor's best...

You concede to me...

Thor wins the durability battle...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
It proves that Hulk has no feat on par with tanking a Neutron Star...

You have no feat from Hulk that compares to King Thor's best...

You concede to me...

Thor wins the durability battle...

I never said he had one but it also doesn’t prove superiority. Feat debaters are so damn stupid. It’s such heinous logic I feel bad for you family.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he had one but it also doesn’t prove superiority. Feat debaters are so damn stupid. It’s such heinous logic I feel bad for you family.

Nope, my logic is supreme and untouchable by your foul hands...

Feats are quantifiable and Thor has the advantage here...

Until you can produce a durability feat by the Hulk on par with tanking a Neutron Star, Thor wins...