Originally posted by Delta1938
So Sinestro did it over a period of time with his sentience having been placed in the CPB(or am I wrong and he did it himself?). I'd have to say this is different from the Mother Box. I'd have to say it's the same with Hal(but a shorter period; assuming by Parallax you're talking EMERALD TWILIGHT). Haven't seen the others(or at least don't remember Anti-Monitor if it happened during COIE) but Anti-Monitor and Maaldor(if I'm remembering him right) aren't exactly some average Top-Tiers. Never seen Evil Star do it(and I guess you're not sure if he did or you're misremembering).
The time frame was never given, and while he was imprisoned, he wasn't in CPB from my recollection. He specifically said that he was controlling it with his mind/power. Check out the arc if you like it's from GL #223-224.
Also, when i referred to Hal, i was referring to Emerald Dawn I, not Emerald Twilight. I overlooked the "twilight" part. that's when Hal was able to tap into the CPB to subdue a creature. Emerald Twilight is technically Parallax and not just Hal, so i was really referring to Emerald Dawn #6: https://imgur.com/a/8BVdcQ0
An important note is that this a rookie and thus pre-amp Hal. He got a more powerful ring in the mid 70s. Those are still canon and there have been specific mentions of them in post-Crisis continuity. While in the N52 continuity there have been also plenty of mentions to those post-Crisis arcs.
Here is the Anti-Monitor part where he taps into the CPB and attacks them with it (it's from a COIE tie-in, GL #194): https://imgur.com/nCUSRsR
I wasn't sure about Evil star since it's been long since ive read those comics, but you're making me track them all down for you, lol. So here's the Evil Star instance from GL #44: https://imgur.com/Qtu5H5h
I should say though that Johns retconned all the guardians pre-Crisis defeats though. By establishing that they don't interfere. This story is too old as well which is why i was reluctant to mention it in the first place. And the guardians were less powerful at the time. Im well aware that Anti Monitor and Maaldor aren't really relevant, which is why i didn't mention them and resorted to the Hal/Sinestro instances.
Originally posted by Delta1938
You mean Mother Box had a high level telekinesis example too? Not sure if that's what you meant or just it's displayed that too. Regardless of if Mother Box can effect gravity to that scale (but like I've said, we've seen it do high level scale feats in other departments), it has the ability to beat Graviton(if not countering his gravity manipulation, telepathy, and possibly other avenues), and one of the primary arguments I've seen against Orion is he's a brawler, but we've seen him fight differently against opponents that face punching or conventional blasts aren't going to work against.
It amped Superboy's tactile telekinesis to planet-level, allowing him to get a shield over Apokolips (which, in some depictions at least, is bigger than your conventional planet).
I see where you're coming from though, but you'll get no argument from me on this one. As ive said, it is a reasonable stance. I still stand by my telepathy argument because we have a direct comparison here. Mother box was able to mindwipe Hammond who is > Synapse, TP-wise. Thus, at least to me, this is the most viable option. The gravity argument on the other hand is messy, since it hinges on power scaling it off MB's scope. And even then there's no guarantee at all that it can overpower Graviton's powers.
