Originally posted by Adam_PoE
*shrugs* You guys sure do seem to worry a lot about the kids when they're crossing the border though. Tell you what: make a choice right now and we'll go with it. We either care about kids or we don't. Let me know your decision.
Btw in case you're wondering: I do care about the border kids, lets feed them, give them medical treatment if needed, and deport them in a humane way 👆
Originally posted by Surtur
*shrugs* You guys sure do seem to worry a lot about the kids when they're crossing the border though. Tell you what: make a choice right now and we'll go with it. We either care about kids or we don't. Let me know your decision.Btw in case you're wondering: I do care about the border kids, lets feed them, give them medical treatment if needed, and deport them in a humane way 👆
The difference is that the welfare of child refugees is an actual concern, whereas a performer in a fanciful costume reading an age-appropriate story book to children is not.
It is an improper appeal to emotion in place of support, because you do not have a good reason that drag queen story time should not be permitted that can stand on its own merits.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The difference is that the welfare of child refugees is an actual concern, whereas a performer in a fanciful costume reading an age-appropriate story book to children is not.It is an improper appeal to emotion in place of support, because you do not have a good reason that drag queen story time should not be permitted that can stand on its own merits.
Just listen to yourself and the babble that comes out of your pea brain.
Bottom line, from my perspective, is that this is about parental consent. Parents should be allowed to teach their children their own values (unless it is directly and objectively harmful to the children or others and even then only under specific circumstances). If parents want to parade DQ's in front of their children to "teach tolerance and inclusiveness", I say let them. This is only bad if the school hid this or forced this upon the parents and students.
The debating about how Trans is a mental disorder or not doesn't really even come into play here, IMO.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The difference is that the welfare of child refugees is an actual concern, whereas a performer in a fanciful costume reading an age-appropriate story book to children is not.It is an improper appeal to emotion in place of support, because you do not have a good reason that drag queen story time should not be permitted that can stand on its own merits.
I'll admit in my post I was talking more about tranny kids and drag queens. Which exist.
My point is: you will never have both. Period. If people want trans adults accepted they need to put a stop to this shit with transgender kids and draq queen kids performing at strip clubs. I repeat: you cannot have both. Do not try to push both down this countries throat, if you do you will have nothing. Just my opinion.
Originally posted by Surtur
I'll admit in my post I was talking more about tranny kids and drag queens. Which exist.My point is: you will never have both. Period. If people want trans adults accepted they need to put a stop to this shit with transgender kids and draq queen kids performing at strip clubs. I repeat: you cannot have both. Do not try to push both down this countries throat, if you do you will have nothing. Just my opinion.
But we do have both.
An interesting read:
I Was America’s First ‘Nonbinary’ Person. It Was All a Sham.
Thank you for the read. I have to verify some of his claims independently but I am absolutely not surprised.
I stand by gender dysphoria being a symptom of a mental illness for most people. The amount of people who genuinely need sex change is such a small fraction of the population, that it should be a glass case to break in case of emergency. Can you imagine the damage that man did to his body from all the hormones? It's so sad.
And now kids are doing sex changes. Wtf. Straight up child abuse. The amount of young adults who will be committing suicide and/or being damaged is going to be alarming. I think all these activist movements have grown so large, and so powerful, they're practically a corporate entity at this point. There is a significant monetary incentive to push some of these agendas forward.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thank you for the read. I have to verify some of his claims independently but I am absolutely not surprised.I stand by gender dysphoria being a symptom of a mental illness for most people. The amount of people who genuinely need sex change is such a small fraction of the population, that it should be a glass case to break in case of emergency. Can you imagine the damage that man did to his body from all the hormones? It's so sad.
And now kids are doing sex changes. Wtf. Straight up child abuse. The amount of young adults who will be committing suicide and/or being damaged is going to be alarming. I think all these activist movements have grown so large, and so powerful, they're practically a corporate entity at this point. There is a significant monetary incentive to push some of these agendas forward.
Yep, you hear about people who decided they were transgender in their teens, transitioned at 18 and by their early twenties they regret it and they can never get their old body back. My question is where were the adults? Sure when the person was 18 they were considered an adult, but a stop should have been put to it before that.
People want to always say "this is complicated". I agree...mental illness can be very complicated. This is why it is ever so dangerous, look at the suicide rates.
That reminds me of a thought I had about suicide. Statistically, men commit suicide far more often than women. Also it does seem like when it comes to transgender people, most are men who wanna be women. True there are women who wanna be men, but I'd bet the percentage of males doing it is higher. So we have men more likely to commit suicide, and we also have a high transgender suicide rate in a situation where it seems like it's mostly men. I could be wrong on the male to female tranny ratio.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thank you for the read. I have to verify some of his claims independently but I am absolutely not surprised.I stand by gender dysphoria being a symptom of a mental illness for most people. The amount of people who genuinely need sex change is such a small fraction of the population, that it should be a glass case to break in case of emergency. Can you imagine the damage that man did to his body from all the hormones? It's so sad.
And now kids are doing sex changes. Wtf. Straight up child abuse. The amount of young adults who will be committing suicide and/or being damaged is going to be alarming. I think all these activist movements have grown so large, and so powerful, they're practically a corporate entity at this point. There is a significant monetary incentive to push some of these agendas forward.
When talking to a few people who are transgendered (where I grew up in Tulsa, there is a very large LGBT population), it feels like gender is spiritual. Listening to them talk about their gender, their feelings, and how they processed things as they grow up - feels like it transcends the flesh (naturalism vs. any sort of theism).
For me, some cases of transgenderism speak to something beyond mortality and of an eternal soul.
My thoughts are getting close to a "God of the Gaps" or "Argument from Ignorance." But there is a reason why it seems like the T from LGBT seems to have a higher degree of religiosity than others - they feel their gender in their soul independent of their biology.
Originally posted by Surtur
An interesting read:I Was America’s First ‘Nonbinary’ Person. It Was All a Sham.
Consider the source. Jamie Shupe has bigger problems than his gender identity. He is literally psychotic, and suffers from auditory and visual hallucinations. He has also been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and PTSD. He is a very mentally troubled individual, and not the sort of person conservative media should be holding up as a case to discredit transgender people.
Originally posted by dadudemon
When talking to a few people who are transgendered (where I grew up in Tulsa, there is a very large LGBT population), it feels like gender is spiritual. Listening to them talk about their gender, their feelings, and how they processed things as they grow up - feels like it transcends the flesh (naturalism vs. any sort of theism).For me, some cases of transgenderism speak to something beyond mortality and of an eternal soul.
My thoughts are getting close to a "God of the Gaps" or "Argument from Ignorance." But there is a reason why it seems like the T from LGBT seems to have a higher degree of religiosity than others - they feel their gender in their soul independent of their biology.
Ah so this is essentially like how some treat non-religious things as a religion. Atheists can do it, commies, etc. Now these crazy folk's belief isn't in a sky god it's in an imaginary vagina.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Consider the source. Jamie Shupe has bigger problems than his gender identity. He is literally psychotic, and suffers from auditory and visual hallucinations. He has also been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and PTSD. He is a very mentally troubled individual, and not the sort of person conservative media should be holding up as a case to discredit transgender people.
Right he had mental issues and maybe it lead to him making the wrong decision. Maybe more than most, but this isn't the only example. It's just in the news cuz of his history.
Honest question surt. How is that any different from the hundreds of thousands of teenagers getting cosmetic surgery or the millions of adults, along with all of the corresponding horror stories with everything from life long deformities to death?