Drag Queens being Brought to Public Schools to read to kids

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The issue here, is that the checks and balances are broken. Because of social pressure, if a professional, tries to dissuade someone from going down this path immediately, or points to some alternatives, they could be potentially viewed as a biggot. Some, are so afraid, they just encourage it. And some have completely drank the koolaid.

Filling out paperwork and jumping through hoops to some extent is technically a long process. But a "long process" doesn't mean it is a useful check. The length of the process is irrelevant. Acknowledgement of the potential causes and careful treatment is the issue.

A process shouldn't be long, it should be f*cking effective. This seems pretty reasonable. If I went on TV and pointed this out, I'd be called a biggot by some (A conservative hero by others), and the conversation would not even be entertained in the major media outlets.

Do you see the underlying issue? People are dumb af. Kids even more. Kids eat Tidepods. They are dumb AF, and with social media, they are almost hive-mind in their ability to be influenced. This should be acknowledged and addressed. As we are an affluent society, and the rate of mental illness and unhappiness skyrockets, people will turn to many things they would not normally turn to.

I don't personally know how common or rare that is and while I'm sure it happens, the professional who tells a certain someone "yeah, in my professional opinion you shouldn't go through with it, as I don't think you're ready." and they received backlash, gut instinct tells me it's probably not common.

Trans people tend to take years and years to transition, it's generally a slow process so by the time they get on beyond the point of no return, it's more likely that they're sure that the person they feel inside isn't the person/body they were born with.

As far as children, I don't know of any cases were children were giving hormone therapy and/or surgery to transition into a different sex due to transgenderism. The cases seem to be due to medical issues, eg like a hermaphrodite where it's decided where this person leans more towards and that sex is aimed for. If this actually happened though, the transgender process of a child; that is wrong. Let them do so when they're adults.

If you have Netflix, watch a documentary called Transformer (2017), it's about a man who did almost everything in his life to be 'the alpha male' so to speak, competitive body builder, competitive power-lifter, joined the Marines, had a wife and kids, despite knowing from a very early age that he always felt he was a woman; needed to be a woman and was never really happy as a man despite decades of pushing his inner feelings down and trying to fit in with the body he was born into.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
They have to get two.

Oh, did now know, thought it was the only single doctor signing off.

Originally posted by Robtard
eg like a hermaphrodite where it's decided where this person leans more towards and that sex is aimed for.

Are there health issues that come with being a hermaphrodite? Don't know a great deal about it you see. I find it difficult to imagine that there's an absolute medical necessity to a hermaphrodite child being assigned male or female, but psychologically speaking I think a hermaphrodite child who has been assigned a sex type would probably do better in life than a hermaphrodite child who has been left to come to full adulthood before making the decision on their own. In fact now that I think about it, it's probably a lot more complicated to operate on a hermaphrodite adult than a child so there's that to contend with.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The issue here, is that the checks and balances are broken. Because of social pressure, if a professional, tries to dissuade someone from going down this path immediately, or points to some alternatives, they could be potentially viewed as a biggot. Some, are so afraid, they just encourage it. And some have completely drank the koolaid.

Filling out paperwork and jumping through hoops to some extent is technically a long process. But a "long process" doesn't mean it is a useful check. The length of the process is irrelevant. Acknowledgement of the potential causes and careful treatment is the issue.

A process shouldn't be long, it should be f*cking effective. This seems pretty reasonable. If I went on TV and pointed this out, I'd be called a biggot by some (A conservative hero by others), and the conversation would not even be entertained in the major media outlets.

Do you see the underlying issue? People are dumb af. Kids even more. Kids eat Tidepods. They are dumb AF, and with social media, they are almost hive-mind in their ability to be influenced. This should be acknowledged and addressed. As we are an affluent society, and the rate of mental illness and unhappiness skyrockets, people will turn to many things they would not normally turn to.

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Originally posted by samhain
Are there health issues that come with being a hermaphrodite? Don't know a great deal about it you see. I find it difficult to imagine that there's an absolute medical necessity to a hermaphrodite child being assigned male or female, but psychologically speaking I think a hermaphrodite child who has been assigned a sex type would probably do better in life than a hermaphrodite child who has been left to come to full adulthood before making the decision on their own. In fact now that I think about it, it's probably a lot more complicated to operate on a hermaphrodite adult than a child so there's that to contend with.

I don't know the exacts of how the choosing takes place, but it has happened before.

I’d say the exact same thing about underage people getting cosmetic surgery btw

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know the exacts of how the choosing takes place, but it has happened before.

I Imagine the split between x and y would only be 50-50 in a few cases, probably more common for there to be a lean in one direction than the other which would help a choice to be made.

Originally posted by samhain
I Imagine the split between x and y would only be 50-50 in a few cases, probably more common for there to be a lean in one direction than the other which would help a choice to be made.

I believe in most cases it's not 50/50, but one gender being more dominant to very dominant

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The issue here, is that the checks and balances are broken. Because of social pressure, if a professional, tries to dissuade someone from going down this path immediately, or points to some alternatives, they could be potentially viewed as a biggot. Some, are so afraid, they just encourage it. And some have completely drank the koolaid.

Filling out paperwork and jumping through hoops to some extent is technically a long process. But a "long process" doesn't mean it is a useful check. The length of the process is irrelevant. Acknowledgement of the potential causes and careful treatment is the issue.

A process shouldn't be long, it should be f*cking effective. This seems pretty reasonable. If I went on TV and pointed this out, I'd be called a biggot by some (A conservative hero by others), and the conversation would not even be entertained in the major media outlets.

Do you see the underlying issue? People are dumb af. Kids even more. Kids eat Tidepods. They are dumb AF, and with social media, they are almost hive-mind in their ability to be influenced. This should be acknowledged and addressed. As we are an affluent society, and the rate of mental illness and unhappiness skyrockets, people will turn to many things they would not normally turn to.

The argument about body hating being an expectation for transgendered people in Western society is also seen as a potentially "trans hating" point of view.

To some degree the cursor for discussion is broken and the fact surgeries have become a commodity and that psychiatrists are winning money in the process... Well, it's not helping to make the cases rarer.

I'm worried that we are just going from visible transhate to shadow transhate that is about as judgemental vs transgender people but it's disguised as a progressive agenda where they get "what they (should) want".

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, did now know, thought it was the only single doctor signing off.

Before one can be approved to have any bottom procedures, he or she must first be diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria; live as the gender with which they identify for a year; and in that year, receive counseling to understand that bottom procedures are irreversible and will render them unable to have children; and receive written approval from two psychologists.

Originally posted by samhain
Are there health issues that come with being a hermaphrodite? Don't know a great deal about it you see. I find it difficult to imagine that there's an absolute medical necessity to a hermaphrodite child being assigned male or female, but psychologically speaking I think a hermaphrodite child who has been assigned a sex type would probably do better in life than a hermaphrodite child who has been left to come to full adulthood before making the decision on their own. In fact now that I think about it, it's probably a lot more complicated to operate on a hermaphrodite adult than a child so there's that to contend with.

The term is intersex, and it describes people who are born with a combination of both male and female genitals, or with ambiguous genitals that are neither entirely male or female.

It is more common than people think, and occurs in approximately 1 in 1,500 births.

Intersex rights advocates oppose surgically assigning children, because parents and doctors risk assigning the child to a sex that does not correspond to his or her gender identity.

For example, an intersex child may have a notably small penis that appears to be a clitoris and a divided scrotum that appears to be labia. Historically, doctors would recommend surgically assigning that child female. But if the child identifies as a boy, you have irreversibly changed zis body.

The doctors will have effectively made a cisgender person transgender, and created gender dysphoria for zim.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I’d say the exact same thing about underage people getting cosmetic surgery btw

Yup, but this specific problem comes with a suicide rate higher than these other groups.

Assuming that the stat of extraordinarily high attempted suicide rate among trans community is true, isn't it a danger to themselves to give them highly lethal weapons and to push them into highly stressful and traumatizing situations?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Assuming that the stat of extraordinarily high attempted suicide rate among trans community is true, isn't it a danger to themselves to give them highly lethal weapons and to push them into highly stressful and traumatizing situations?

We never gave them Mel Gibson. You cray cray.

Hehe, but yeah I legit don't know what you mean by giving them lethal weapons.

He's talking about the military ban.

Ohhhh well...me again I guess:

Dammit, wrong thread. Lol.

S'what I get for posting at 5am after a few drinks... -_-

Hehe

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Before one can be approved to have any bottom procedures, he or she must first be diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria; live as the gender with which they identify for a year; and in that year, receive counseling to understand that bottom procedures are irreversible and will render them unable to have children; and receive written approval from two psychologists.

^ The transphobes here should read this fun trans fact

Yeah mentally ill people are qualified to understand and make those choices. Yup yup.