Worthy Cap vs. Kurse

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂 All this time you were debating a dead end, I already proved that Asgardian strength got nothing to do with body complexity, ergo, its due to magic.

Muscles determine strength. If Asgardians were ruled by this, Hela would have never outpowered Thor.

You forget that Asgardians are magical beings.

Problem with your so-called "proof" is that it's wrong and just proves how little you know. Muscles are only part of what determine strength. There are multiple other factors.

If this was true then bodybuilders should be able to overpower olympic wrestlers every single time.

Anyway, it's clear you're now moving goalposts to "muscles determine strength" because you know I completely destroyed your "Thor is out of the strength range of other Asgardians" theory.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Problem with your so-called "proof" is that it's wrong and just proves how little you know. Muscles are only part of what determine strength. There are multiple other factors.

If this was true then bodybuilders should be able to overpower olympic wrestlers every single time.

Anyway, it's clear you're now moving goalposts to "muscles determine strength" because you know I completely destroyed your "Thor is out of the strength range of other Asgardians" theory.

So a housewife can outstrengthen a bodybuilder?

Lol, you do realize that olympic wrestlers do bodybuilding? Maybe not officially, but they do their weights and stuff.

Sorry boy, seems your understanding over physiology/anatomy is lacking.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
So a housewife can outstrengthen a bodybuilder?

Lol, you do realize that olympic wrestlers do bodybuilding? Maybe not officially, but they do their weights and stuff.

Sorry boy, seems your understanding over physiology/anatomy is lacking.

Uhuh. And are olympic wrestlers as well-muscled as bodybuilders? Or are you saying the size of the muscles are not a good indication of strength?

Muscle size is a decent indication of increased strength on the Same Person.

But theres plenty of examples of person A having bigger muscles than person B, but still being weaker.

Someone needs to show proof that Cap was or wasn’t normal strength else it’s just trolling back & forth.

Cap lifted Mjolnit and used the powers of the hammer.

That’s all.

Cap didn’t magically gain Asgardian super strength, agility, invulnerability, or a 13 inch penis.

Cap was just worthy. Being worthy doesn’t make you god tier.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Muscle size is a decent indication of increased strength on the Same Person.

But theres plenty of examples of person A having bigger muscles than person B, but still being weaker.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Uhuh. And are olympic wrestlers as well-muscled as bodybuilders? Or are you saying the size of the muscles are not a good indication of strength?

Prove an olympic wrestler can outstrengthen a bodybuilder.

Eh..yeah...many olympic wrestlers do weights...

Stop playing blind man, prove a housewife can outstrengthen a bodybuilder

I have evidently decimated your logic. Just admit WHAT WE ALL KNOW, that Asgardians are magical.

Imp already made a ruling on this. You lost

Okay, time to put an end to your foolishness!

Odin's words are clear. They literally prove my point.

Either bring clear evidence that Cap didn't got a strength boost, or swallow your butthurt.

Speculation won't trump an official statement from Marvel. Sorry boys

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Imp already made a ruling on this. You lost

Impediment made NO ruling. He gave his opinion which I respect. Imp can't decide thread results.

I'm participating in the debate.

I still want proof that Cap "gained super powers" just because he was worthy.

Cap simply utilized Mjolnir and its powers. No different that picking up a shot gun and spraying buck shot.

Cap wasn't god tier; he was the same man.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B] Okay, time to put an end to your foolishness!

Odin's words are clear. They literally prove my point.

Either bring clear evidence that Cap didn't got a strength boost, or swallow your butthurt.

Speculation won't trump an official statement from Marvel. Sorry boys [/B]

Thats not how this works. On Screen Feats Only here, so you have to bring the feat which shows Cap gained Thors physical abilities.

Also where is this official statement from Marvel?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Prove an olympic wrestler can outstrengthen a bodybuilder.

Eh..yeah...many olympic wrestlers do weights...

[B] Stop playing blind man, prove a housewife can outstrengthen a bodybuilder

I have evidently decimated your logic. Just admit WHAT WE ALL KNOW, that Asgardians are magical. [/B]

Hela is not a housewife but a trained warrior. Why are you dodging my question? Are you claiming that muscle size is what determines strength?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's not how this works. On Screen Feats only here, so you have to bring the feat which shows Cap gained Thor's physical abilities.

Also where is this official statement from Marvel?

Thank you.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Impediment made NO ruling. He gave his opinion which I respect. Imp can't decide thread results.

Let’s BZ this then

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B] Okay, time to put an end to your foolishness!

Odin's words are clear. They literally prove my point.

Either bring clear evidence that Cap didn't got a strength boost, or swallow your butthurt.

Speculation won't trump an official statement from Marvel. Sorry boys [/B]

On screen feats>Odins bullshit

Hela is a millennia-old warrior goddess, not a housewife. And trying to equate her to one, in terms of physical condition, is some cringe-worthy level attempts at low-balling.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats not how this works. On Screen Feats Only here, so you have to bring the feat which shows Cap gained Thors physical abilities.

Also where is this official statement from Marvel?

So Odin saying something about Asgardians isn't a feat? Odin has no credibility!?

OMG! I never cease to amaze on the level of stupidities the Thor fanbase will bring up in order to favour their heroes

P.S. I remember you how all of you ignored this.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Honestly, what a joke. Your desperation to lowball the obvious is clear.

Either way, with this post I hope to finally put an end to your dishonorable crusade.

[B]Evidence 1: Odin's explicit words

Odin Borson:

As many of you like to think in this forum (I personally disagree with), the simplest and less elavorate answer is always the real one. Odin's words are clear.

Thor lost his superstrength when he was unworthy and then gain it back.
You can speculate however you want, the fact is Thor became superstrong after being worthy.

Unless you bring solid evidence against that notion, Cap also became Thor superstrong when becoming Worthy

Evidence 2: Worthy Roggers vs Captain America

Anyone who is a fan of Marvel, moreover a fan of Captain America would realize how evident the powerboost was.

Evidence 2.1: Infinity War Captain America vs Worthy Cap

The first CLEAR AS CRYSTAL evidence can be found when comparing IW Cap with Worthy Cap. Using a simple apples to apples comparison, we can use Thanos as the metric.

Back at IW, Cap's punches and shield attacks were but an itch to Thanos. Thanos wasn't even bothered by Cap! Yet, in EG Cap's punches and shield attacks are clearly felt by Thanos!

Furthermore, back at IW a single punch from Thanos KOed Cap! Whilst in EG, Cap was taking enraged attacks from Thanos the same way Thor was!

YouTube video

Here I place the vid, you can compare it with W.Cap's kicks and shield attacks in the vid I'll place bellow.

Evidence 2.2: Captain America vs Worthy Cap

However, the easiest and most clear comparison lies in Engame itself. We can compare Cap's performance against Thanos before becoming Worthy and afterwards.

Clearly Cap got a strength boost.

YouTube video

- Minute 0:26, a single blow from Thanos' Infinity Sword send Cap flying back several meters.

- Minute 2:33, Thanos' IS attacks are being effectively blocked by Cap without this being outpowered.

I can bring many more evidence that Cap's regular strength isn't one to contend with a Hulk level strength. But i think this is enough to overwhelm any speculation or lowball you guys can bring

Cap's overall powerboost is WAY EVIDENT.

Unless you bring solid evidence to prove otherwise, everything suggest Cap got a strength boost. Speculation isn't evidence guys. The literal feats support my case [/B]

Stop wasting my time D.T. Prove that Cap wasn't boosted or stop your nonesense.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hela is not a housewife but a trained warrior. Why are you dodging my question? Are you claiming that muscle size is what determines strength?

You are saying that their strength can be explained due to their physiology.

In that case, Hela has the body complexity of a normal house wife (not fat though).

You are clearly desperate. You have no proves to back your claims.

Sorry Froth, last chance, prove your points or admit what we all know.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm participating in the debate.

I still want proof that Cap "gained super powers" just because he was worthy.

Cap simply utilized Mjolnir and its powers. No different that picking up a shot gun and spraying buck shot.

Cap wasn't god tier; he was the same man.

I have already rebuked this. Sorry man.