Originally posted by Diesldude
when you stop running you coward, read my post again because you’re post has nothing to do with what I typed.And don’t tell me to hang myself you worthless POS. I saw your Facebook profile your dumb out of shape ****. You’re going to die of a heart attack or forget how to breath long before I even consider hanging myself.
Looks like i struck a nerve
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Instead of addressing what I said you derail my thread and throw ad hominem attacks. concession accepted 👍 don't wank prime again child, that's the millonth time i've have to slap you senseless on another feat of an S related character 😂
You’re post had nothing to do with mine so there was no point in addressing it. Read my post and reply again with a better argument.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Interesting. Hulkster, any comment? You seem a BIG fan of quoting mods 🙂
Noted that this one depiction gives the PZ a solid wall border separating the two realities to punch.
Was any reality changed when SBP punches Black Adam, Conner, regular Superman, the Gals, etc? There is something about his punches that is unique, if not just the power behind them. But how is it applicable in battle? Mephisto warps Peter Parker's entire life at a whim. Genis-vell and Sentry do more. Reality is mucked with when the three Thor's fight Gorr.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilyou really can’t read can you? This is how you started your reply.
You mentioned retcon punch, and I said that wouldn't affect Legion because hes in the op... that I asked... the ACTUAL topic. But somehow its irrelevant, you got spanked. bad. again. You make this too easy for me 😂
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No he wasn't you moron 😂 BWL was fighting Perpetua for a while BEFORE he stabilized the Earth.
Now read the post you quoted and responded to. You said no you moron and then said the same thing I said in that post regarding DK and perpetua. Since that was in agreement with my post there was no point in addressing it. I never brought up leagion or any other marvel character because you and some of your friends still refuse to accept his reality altering ability. What’s the point of going to step 2 when we haven’t agreed upon step 1 yet. Or have you?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
I was absolutely right. Not sure what you are reading.
So when you quoted Galan, saying he differed from qwerty, SPECIFICALLY on the connection between the PZ and the multiverse:
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Nope,The comics never stated how SBP's reality-warping ability works. We just knew he has the ability.And performed multiple times and to date no specific proof to prove he needs specific conditions to do that.
But we saw him changing reality by hitting a corrupted version of Superman. And we saw him changing reality by hitting phantom zone where he didn't have any multiversal people or structures to hit etc.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Opinions differ from yours on the connection of the corrupted Superman and Phantom Zone to the multiverse:
Yet, Galan clarifies saying - almost what qwerty says, word for word (in terms of the main salient points):
Originally posted by Galan007
I understand that the PZ having a defined space and/or bordering walls doesn't make much sense, but different writers often do whatever they want in cases like this(especially those involving Prime.) Now as for how punching out of the PZ could have altered continuity: I have no rational explanation for that. The PZ isn't historically defined as a multiversal nexus point(certainly not in the same way the Limbo realm or DN are)... But as mentioned in the above scene- that's just what Prime does(nonsensical as it may be):Not sure why Prime being able to punch continuity so hard that it switches forms is being lowballed/downplayed to such extremes..? The fact that it is completely illogical doesn't change the fact that he's... Done it. 😕
So how are they differing opinions? Please explain.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So when you quoted Galan, saying he differed from qwerty, SPECIFICALLY on the connection between the PZ and the multiverse:Yet, Galan clarifies saying - almost what qwerty says, word for word (in terms of the main salient points):
So how are they differing opinions? Please explain.
Because this part is part of the post:
Originally posted by Galan007
At this point it is abundantly clear that Prime's punches have an innate ability to alter/affect reality in ways no other being(barring high-end reality manipulators) can... When connecting with certain 'targets' that are in some way intrinsically tied-to creation.
What I interpret as being said is that while historically, the PZ is not a nexus point and that it makes no sense to have a solid border, different writers give different portrayals. In this case, the writer gives it this wall and that wall serves as a target that is "in some way intrinsically tied to creation".
It would seem consistent with comic book lore that hitting the solid bouderies between realities with enough force or by some special force can muck with reality. The whole argument is one of the specific need for special items to hit for reality to be altered even if Prime is the only one capable of achieving this. This is why most of the many people he has punched before don't go through reality changes.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Because this part is part of the post:What I interpret as being said is that while historically, the PZ is not a nexus point and that it makes no sense to have a solid border, different writers give different portrayals. In this case, the writer gives it this wall and that wall serves as a target that is "in some way intrinsically tied to creation".
It would seem consistent with comic book lore that hitting the solid bouderies between realities with enough force or by some special force can muck with reality. The whole argument is one of the specific need for special items to hit for reality to be altered even if Prime is the only one capable of achieving this. This is why most of the many people he has punched before don't go through reality changes.
That part is for point#2.
Point #1 is for the Phantom Zone,your point.
Nowhere does Galan, your hero whom you quote, say it is ONLY limited to items linked to creation.....
Which incidentally, isn't the point that you originally made, which was that the PZ and the multiverse was linked.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That part is for point#2.Point #1 is for the Phantom Zone,your point.
Nowhere does Galan, your hero whom you quote, say it is ONLY limited to items linked to creation.....
Which incidentally, isn't the point that you originally made, which was that the PZ and the multiverse was linked.
He says "at this point" which seems to me to be a summary of the first two points and it's consistent with below:
Originally posted by Galan007
SBP does seem to need a 'target' of sorts to effect those kind of changes -- specifically one that is connected to the multiverse in some esoteric way. In the first instance the target was the walls of the Limbo realm, in the second instance the target was the wall/border of the Phantom Zone, in the third instance the target was the Darkest Night and/or his lackeys.To date, Prime hasn't just thrown his fists into thin air and altered the multiverse.
That said, Prime did somehow did manage to bust from the 3rd dimension into the 5th dimension to kidnap Mxy during Countdown:
https://ibb.co/Brsv1xt
...But he also had the Guardian amp at the time, and that action didn't have any adverse effects on the rest of creation.
And, yes, he never says "only", but rather says "specifically".