Originally posted by -Pr-
I got confused then, as I didn't recognise the comic that was posted, I just assumed it was a newer one. My bad.I don't mind Xavier knowing more than Cyclops. My issue is with making Cyclops look bad when part of the point of the character is that he's this guy that studies mutant powers every day.
Marvel v1 #5 is the only new comic, yes, but it's a short scene lasting just seven pages. Not enough material in it to say that the x-writing has gotten worse. Bendis' run is a far better example.
Cyclops and Logan can't agree on anything, from the way they call their battlesuits to their battle approach.
Thought you targeted the rest of my post with that comment durclops
True about Cyclops, but we should consider that various telepaths, martial artists... telepathic martial artists... or even writers themselves tend to be clueless about the *true* berserker rage Logan is capable of.
It's not your standard battle fury ability, though it still comes at a cost of increased bloodlust and uses up stamina faster.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Marvel v1 #5 is the only new comic, yes, but it's a short scene lasting just seven pages. Not enough material in it to say that the x-writing has gotten worse. Bendis' run is a far better example.Cyclops and Logan can't agree on anything, from the way they call their battlesuits to their battle approach.
Thought you targeted the rest of my post with that comment durclops
True about Cyclops, but we should consider that various telepaths, martial artists... telepathic martial artists... or even writers themselves tend to be clueless about the *true* berserker rage Logan is capable of.
It's not your standard battle fury ability, though it still comes at a cost of increased bloodlust and uses up stamina faster.
Hey, I wasn't limiting it to one example. They've been dropping the ball. All of the balls. For years now.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WWH tagged him just fine, same WWH that Beast (whilst carrying someone) was literally dancing around.I showed Kalibak tagging Max Mercury, a legit speedster, whilst specifically mentioning his speed. This isn't like say, Batman or Deathstroke tagging a speedster - Kalibak specifically says a speedster's speed is not impressive to him, then tags him.
Moreover, you didn't even clarify which versions of everyone this is - Metallo is able to create bodies out of whatever metal he touches.
Imagine if he gets touched by adamantium 😂
Just want to post this... Hulk was dodging and catching super sonic missles...
https://ibb.co/51HYXjs
https://ibb.co/pj5V9v0
https://ibb.co/stXXMzX
Then this...
Well Beast was dancing around WWH, despite WWH trying to catch him, despite him carrying Elixir on his back, lol.
So if Hulk, normal Hulk, can catch supersonic missiles, surely an amped Hulk can catch supersonic missiles too (at least)??
So if Beast can avoid him, this must mean Beast is hypersonic, is that how this works?
Beast also got tagged multiple times in that mini, keep it in mind.
Sure, Hank loves his acrobatics and bouncing shtick... hell, sometimes he even mimics Spider-Man's wall-crawling abilities (it's not exactly the same, as he damages the walls in the process, but still)... but in the end, he always gets his ass raped.
Hulk was simply holding back. He doesn't need to go all out against Beast 😂.
It's like me saying Aquaman is faster than Superman.
https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-4.png
It was stated on panel that Hulk was holding back throughout WWH, especially against the almighty Beast, the character you feel Hulk should use everything in his disposal against.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Beast also got tagged multiple times in that mini, keep it in mind.Sure, Hank loves his acrobatics and bouncing shtick... hell, sometimes he even mimics Spider-Man's wall-crawling abilities (it's not exactly the same, as he damages the walls in the process, but still)... but in the end, he always gets his ass raped.
Yep, Hulk one punch koed him. Dark simply believes Hulk used every ounce of his speed against Beast. That is his argument. I even mentioned Hulk tagging X23 and Wolverine and he mentioned Beast being faster than them. Naah, Hulk needed to grab X23 and Wolverine because they were the most threatening out of the entire group.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@Stilt:Indeed.My point is that WWH and Beast and X-23 and Logan were all in the same ballpark in terms of speed.
Unless we want to argue that all of them were hypersonic, lmao.
@Csrver: he was trying to catch Beast. And failed.
Aren't you the guy that tend to defend "at their best"? Why change now? Especially since WWH is an amped Hulk".
Originally posted by carver9
Aren't you the guy that tend to defend "at their best"? Why change now? Especially since WWH is an amped Hulk".
I am saying Savage has better feats than WWH.
You want to say Savage can catch supersonic missiles, I am not disputing that - notice I NEVER said he couldn't, lmao.
I am saying that if Savage can catch supersonic missiles, an amped Hulk should be able to catch hypersonic missiles.
And thus, anyone who can avoid WWH catching them must be insanely fast 👆
Which part of this do you dispute?
Or he's holding back and never intended on grabbing Beast. His goal was to get Xavier and he didn't do that either. His goal was to take out Tony and he didn't do that either. His goal was to take out Reed and he didn't do that either. Take out Strange, didnt do that. All of these beings were right in front of him with his entire intentions on taking each and every last one of them out but he didn't. All of the destruction he caused throughout WWH, not a single person died. Again, do you truly believe Hulk was trying to take out Beast? You do know Beast was koed in front of him, twice, right? Why not just, ya know, cripple him or kill him then? I'm trying to see where you are going with this. Did Beast fight Sentry version of WWH? Is this what you are implying?
