Can Mjolnir's "worthy enchantmment" be overpowered with strength?
let's say mjolnir was laying on the ground and the following characters attempted to pick it up with physical strength alone, like the avengers roster did in AOU.. what would happen?
1. thanos
2. ronan w. power stone
3. captain marvel (assume she is not worthy)
4. kurse
5. hela
6. surtur
7. dormammu
From what we've seen the few times people tried, no. Hulk broke the ground trying to lift the hammer and he was plenty mad. Mjolnir was basically glued there and didn't move a millimeter. He also tried to catch it and got yanked clean off his feet if I recall. If Hulk couldn't even budge it, then unless we see something that makes them more powerful than Odin, it shouldn't be possible unless you're someone like Ego or a Celestial. The simple fact that you're unworthy takes any amount of physical strength out of the equation. You need something else to disrupt or override the enchantment's stipulations.
Originally posted by KingD19
From what we've seen the few times people tried, no. Hulk broke the ground trying to lift the hammer and he was plenty mad. Mjolnir was basically glued there and didn't move a millimeter. He also tried to catch it and got yanked clean off his feet if I recall. If Hulk couldn't even budge it, then unless we see something that makes them more powerful than Odin, it shouldn't be possible unless you're someone like Ego or a Celestial. The simple fact that you're unworthy takes any amount of physical strength out of the equation. You need something else to disrupt or override the enchantment's stipulations.
Watching that scene again makes it seem like Mjolnir gets proportionately heavier the stronger the person is trying to pick it up. Luke Hulk is heavy, but he shouldn't have shaken the entire deck like that just from falling on his butt. If your strength is a 10, Mjolnir weighs 11. It's like running down a hallway where the door at the end is always too far to reach.
Originally posted by KingD19But Hela held it without her feet destroying the ground or her being yanked forward with Mjolnir.
From what we've seen the few times people tried, no. Hulk broke the ground trying to lift the hammer and he was plenty mad. Mjolnir was basically glued there and didn't move a millimeter. He also tried to catch it and got yanked clean off his feet if I recall. If Hulk couldn't even budge it, then unless we see something that makes them more powerful than Odin, it shouldn't be possible unless you're someone like Ego or a Celestial. The simple fact that you're unworthy takes any amount of physical strength out of the equation. You need something else to disrupt or override the enchantment's stipulations.
Originally posted by h1a8
But Hela held it without her feet destroying the ground or her being yanked forward with Mjolnir.
So you are saying that Hela was worthy (or used magic to override Odin's enchantment) since she was the original owner?
Her pointing out how it was originally her hammer made it seem like she was exempt from the enchantment. Whether through her own magic or something else, she was able to stop it's momentum and palm it like a basketball. Even Kurse didn't do that, he slapped it away which seems within the rules of the enchantment since a closed fist isn't trying to hold it so at that point it's still a super hammer, but no enchantment.
Originally posted by KingD19
Her pointing out how it was originally her hammer made it seem like she was exempt from the enchantment. Whether through her own magic or something else, she was able to stop it's momentum and palm it like a basketball. Even Kurse didn't do that, he slapped it away which seems within the rules of the enchantment since a closed fist isn't trying to hold it so at that point it's still a super hammer, but no enchantment.
So you agree that it wasnt purely strength Hela used to perform the feet (hold it and also prevent it from returning)?
Originally posted by h1a8
But Hela held it without her feet destroying the ground or her being yanked forward with Mjolnir.
So you are saying that Hela was worthy (or used magic to override Odin's enchantment) since she was the original owner?
Hela never tried to lift or wield Mjolnir. What she did was stop it from hitting her.
Re: Can Mjolnir's "worthy enchantmment" be overpowered with strength?
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
let's say mjolnir was laying on the ground and the following characters attempted to pick it up with physical strength alone, like the avengers roster did in AOU.. what would happen?1. thanos
2. ronan w. power stone
3. captain marvel (assume she is not worthy)
4. kurse
5. hela
6. surtur
7. dormammu
Hela already held the hammer.
Originally posted by NemeBro
On that list the only character I'd wager could overpower the enchantment is Dormammu.
Originally posted by Robtard
^What NemeB said.Someone on that list besides Kurse and Hela might be able to manipulate the hammer in some manner (swat it away, destroy it), but overpower the enchantment, none with the exception of possibly Dormammu, due to being a multi-cosmic-level entity.
Yeah, if we're including onscreen statements, Dormammu is a multiversal being. Wong states in Dr Strange that Dormammu wants to invade "every universe" to add them to the Dark Dimension. And the official MCU guidebook reaffirms that he is a multiversal and multidimensional being.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, if we're including onscreen statements, Dormammu is a multiversal being. Wong states in Dr Strange that Dormammu wants to invade "every universe" to add them to the Dark Dimension. And the official MCU guidebook reaffirms that he is a multiversal and multidimensional being.