Can Mjolnir's "worthy enchantmment" be overpowered with strength?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
As I already explained, if you watched the actual movies, you would know a medium tool Cant be used to deactivate the enchantment.

You air argument is stupid. Just like the floor Mjolnir sits on isnt worthy not is the air. Its dependant on the Wielder of Mjolnir wills it to do.

No its not Moot. Because we saw Mjolnir trying to escape her grasp and/or move past her hand (it was moving horizontally) which means thats what Thor was willing it to do. Shes also far stronger than Hulk.

Its really quite simple. You are just over complicating things for no reason.

The moment Hela stopped Mjolnir's forward momentum (Thor tried to call it back after that happened) then it should have dropped.

Pick one:

1. You believe that it never lost horizontal momentum (went from trying to go forward to trying to go backward instantaneously).

2. You believe it lost it's forward momentum for a small moment before Thor tried to call it back.

I see that you're still working on your fanfiction.

Originally posted by h1a8
The moment Hela stopped Mjolnir's forward momentum (Thor tried to call it back after that happened) then it should have dropped

Youre still making your own fanfic canon.

Originally posted by h1a8

Pick one:

1. You believe that it never lost horizontal momentum (went from trying to go forward to trying to go backward instantaneously).

2. You believe it lost it's forward momentum for a small moment before Thor tried to call it back.

What we saw onscreen seemed like 1. But 2 could also be correct.

However nothing suggests that she overpowered the enchantment with anything other than brute strength. Nothing except your fanfic.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Youre still making your own fanfic canon.

What we saw onscreen seemed like 1. But 2 could also be correct.

However nothing suggests that she overpowered the enchantment with anything other than brute strength. Nothing except your fanfic.

Originally posted by h1a8
So she held it up and overpowered the lifting enchantment in your opinion?

It was quite clear her strength stopped Mjolnir, then crushed it. Yes.

Why is it so hard for some people to accept that Hela is strong enough to overpower the enchantment? She implied to be close to Odin's level and powered by Asgard itself.

Originally posted by Psychotron
She implied to be close to Odin's level and powered by Asgard itself.

Yeah. In fact Implied to Possibly be even stronger than Odin.

I wouldn't say Hela's stronger then Odin (because his lifeforce was enough to keep her trapped for thousands of years), but she is definitely very close to his level- close enough that she grew beyond his ability to control. Would be interesting to see a fight between them.

One theory Ive seen floating around is that Mjolnir "remembered" Hela from the days when she used to wield it, which may have been why the enchantment wasn't an issue for her.

Originally posted by Mendax

One theory Ive seen floating around is that Mjolnir "remembered" Hela from the days when she used to wield it, which may have been why the enchantment wasn't an issue for her.

Thats what h1 is trying to get at and propose as some kind of fact. But its speculation at best. The film only shows her overpowering Mjolnir via strength. No hint of her having control over it.

If they wanted to portray that, then they should have had her stopping it in mid air.

It is most definitely strength because originally they had Hela coming to Asgard and ripping the destroyer apart with her bare hands. That was something I read stated by Waititi

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It was quite clear her strength stopped Mjolnir, then crushed it. Yes.

Now don't get me wrong. She does have the necessary strength to overpower the enchantment, assuming the enchantment is weaker than the durability of Mjolnir.

Fictional inconsistency.

Originally posted by h1a8
So if she held it up (prevented it from falling) then why didn't her feet cave the ground in like when Hulk tried to lift it?

Now don't get me wrong. She does have the necessary strength to overpower the enchantment, assuming the enchantment is weaker than the durability of Mjolnir.

Don't you larp as a scientist or something? Why would her feet cave the ground? Hulk was pushing down with his legs when trying to lift Mjolnir up. Hela, on the other hand, was preventing it from moving forward/backwards. It would make no sense for her feet to cave ground like Hulk did given the direction of the forces involved.

Also, we don't even see her feet in that scence, so we have no idea if she caved in the ground or not.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Don't you larp as a scientist or something? Why would her feet cave the ground? Hulk was pushing down with his legs when trying to lift Mjolnir up. Hela, on the other hand, was preventing it from moving forward/backwards. It would make no sense for her feet to cave ground like Hulk did given the direction of the forces involved.

Also, we don't even see her feet in that scence, so we have no idea if she caved in the ground or not.

Originally posted by h1a8
So anyone can hold Mjolnir (prevent it from falling) if Thor places it in their hands?

Thor didn't place it in her hands, he threw it at her and she caught at it and held it. When Hulk tried to do the same he went flying with the hammer because of the enchantment. Hela overpowered the enchantment. That's all there is to it.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Thor didn't place it in her hands, he threw it at her and she caught at it and held it. When Hulk tried to do the same he went flying with the hammer because of the enchantment. Hela overpowered the enchantment. That's all there is to it.

What do you mean it wasn't addressed to him? you quoted him in the post you said it.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's a yes or no question and wasn't addressed to you. Stop trolling

You quoted me, genius. How can it possibly be addressed to anyone else?

Amusing isn't it. h1 directly responds to one of your posts(going so far as to quote it) and then when you respond. he claims that he wasn't addressing you. The best part is he can't even claim to have made a mistake as the post in question was two posts above his claim.

And then h1 had the nerve to tell him to stop trolling facepalm