Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, if we're including onscreen statements, Dormammu is a multiversal being. Wong states in Dr Strange that Dormammu wants to invade "every universe" to add them to the Dark Dimension. And the official MCU guidebook reaffirms that he is a multiversal and multidimensional being.
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Originally posted by riv6672
There’s a Gudebook? Gotta look that up.
There are multiple volumes by now. IIRC, this is the one with the Dormammu info:
https://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Guidebook-Guardians/dp/1302902407
Originally posted by 9jaboy
Hela stopped the hammer in its tracks and crushed it with the easiest of ease, enchantment and all. Lifting it would be cake for her.
No, that's not the same thing. Mjolnir's enchantment stops people from lifting and wielding it. It does not make it completely unstoppable in its tracks, which is what Hela did. If it was unstoppable then nobody should be able to block hits from Mjolnir.
There's really no proof that Hela could actually move Mjolnir.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, that's not the same thing. Mjolnir's enchantment stops people from lifting and wielding it. It does not make it completely unstoppable in its tracks, which is what Hela did. If it was unstoppable then nobody should be able to block hits from Mjolnir.There's really no proof that Hela could actually move Mjolnir.
Originally posted by RobtardThat's what I thought. From what was shown and implied, She was more than capable of overpowering the enchantment.
Eh, she could probably grab and move it on some level, but she would be actively fighting against the hammer's enchantment the whole time.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
There are multiple volumes by now. IIRC, this is the one with the Dormammu info:https://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Guidebook-Guardians/dp/1302902407
Originally posted by Robtard
Anyone else find Blanchett sexy AF as Hela?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh I thought that was just me !
Originally posted by 9jaboy
But she not only stopped it in its tracks but crushed it along with enchantment placed upon it, and easily at that. Which Thor thought impossible by the way.
Yes, and if she removed her hand from Mjolnir it would have went ahead and smashed into her. That's not overcoming the enchantment.
And there's no enchantment on Mjolnir to make it indestructible either, which means that Hela crushing it (while impressive) has got nothing to do with the worhty enchantment on Mjolnir.
Originally posted by Robtard
Yup. That was a pure act of strength or magic that mimics strength. not overpowering the enchantment, as you see the hammer trying to push through her grip but it can't.Anyone else find Blanchett sexy AF as Hela?
Thor was trying to pull it back and she stop it from returning. You have it backwards.
Originally posted by Silent Master
So?
So Hulk's feet crushed the ground when he tried lifting it and Mjolnir took him off his feet when he tried to catch it. Neither happened to Hela which is evidence that it wasn't all strength with her.
Originally posted by FrothByteHulk tried to catch and hold it and failed. It carried him off his feet and then fell to the ground (he couldn't keep it up in the air). Hela held Mjolnir. It should have fallen to the ground unless she used some magic to overcome the enchantment. Her feet didn't crush the ground while she was holding it either and neither was she taken off the ground when catching it.
She didn't lift or wield it nor did she even try to move it around. We already know that Mjonlir's momentum can be somewhat messed with, as Kurse had previously redirected it and both Loki and Cap outright block strikes from it.
Originally posted by h1a8
So Hulk's feet crushed the ground when he tried lifting it and Mjolnir took him off his feet when he tried to catch it. Neither happened to Hela which is evidence that it wasn't all strength with her.
So you're saying that Hela might possibly have used magic to anchor herself so she could use strength to stop and then destroy Mjolnir.
Originally posted by RobtardThe return force is weak as i proven in the other thread. The ground didn't get crushed while she was holding it (like Hulk did) and it didn't carry her off her feet either when she first made contact. That proves it wasn't purely strength (the prevention of it falling or her coming off her feet). The only part where strength played a role was preventing it from returning and crushing it.
That's speculation, though it doesn't change the point either way, she used strength to stop and then hold the hammer while it tried to move. Try again, troll.
Originally posted by Silent MasterHela cant fly so she shouldn't be able to prevent the ground from caving in. Yet it didn't. Ergo she used magic (or it respected her as original owner over Odin).
So you're saying that Hela might possibly have used magic to anchor herself so she could use strength to stop and then destroy Mjolnir.
Originally posted by Silent MasterWe are specifically talking about the holding part (not the stopping or crushing). She has no ability to levitate or fly therefore the ground wasn't crushed and therefore used magic (or was preferred by Mjolnir) to prevent it from falling.
So that is a yes, you're saying that Hela might possibly have used magic to anchor herself so she could use strength to stop and then destroy Mjolnir.