Can Mjolnir's "worthy enchantmment" be overpowered with strength?

I pity those poor school children.

Originally posted by Psychotron
You quoted me, genius. How can it possibly be addressed to anyone else?

Originally posted by h1a8
My bad. I confused you with Darth. Anyway it was a yes or no question.

How did you manage that when the post was literally right in front of you. it's not like it happened 5 pages ago.

Originally posted by h1a8
My bad. I confused you with Darth. Anyway it was a yes or no question.

The question isn't appropriate because that's not what happened in the scene. He threw is at her, so we can draw a direct parallel with Hulk.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The question isn't appropriate because that's not what happened in the scene. He threw is at her, so we can draw a direct parallel with Hulk.

That makes your 60,379th win in the category of "worst debater", right?

Originally posted by h1a8
Concession accepted. I win

Nice try, but that shit didn't work for Quan and it certainly doesn't work for you.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Nice try, but that shit didn't work for Quan and it certainly doesn't work for you.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's the rules of debating. Failure to rebut and argument properly results in the loss of the debate.

Except he did rebut it. You just ignored his rebuttal and claimed you won.

He's right that is a Troll tactic.

Congrats for taking over the crown from Quanchi.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's the rules of debating. Failure to rebut and argument properly results in the loss of the debate.

So all the times you didn't rebut an arguments properly mean you lost the debate?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except he did rebut it. You just ignored his rebuttal and claimed you won.

He's right that is a Troll tactic.

Congrats for taking over the crown from Quanchi.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So all the times you didn't rebut an arguments properly mean you lost the debate?

Originally posted by h1a8
It's the rules of debating. Failure to rebut and argument properly results in the loss of the debate.

So then you lost, because you changed the argument with your stupid "what if Thor places Mjolnir in Hela's hands?" question. Also, you failed to address the fact that Hela's feet are not even shown in that scene, so we have no idea if she caved the ground or not.

Nice try again, Quan Jr.

Originally posted by Psychotron
So then you lost, because you changed the argument with your stupid "what if Thor places Mjolnir in Hela's hands?" question. Also, you failed to address the fact that Hela's feet are not even shown in that scene, so we have no idea if she caved the ground or not.

Nice try again, Quan Jr.

Originally posted by h1a8
Her height didn't change.

This is the hill you want to die on? Hulk weighs many times more than Hela and he barely sunk an inch or two when trying to lift Mjolnir with all of his strength.

Again, this is irrelevant, because Thor threw the hammer at Hela, just like he did at Hulk, and we saw wildly different results. Hulk was carried by it due to the enchantment, while Hela overpowered it. This is a scene from a children's movie and you're confused by it. If you really are a teacher you should resign.

Originally posted by Psychotron
This is the hill you want to die on? Hulk weighs many times more than Hela and he barely sunk an inch or two when trying to lift Mjolnir with all of his strength.

Again, this is irrelevant, because Thor threw the hammer at Hela, just like he did at Hulk, and we saw wildly different results. Hulk was carried by it due to the enchantment, while Hela overpowered it. This is a scene from a children's movie and you're confused by it. If you really are a teacher you should resign.

So basically, the hammer can be held but not lifted up or the enchantment did not work on Hela. Duh.
Thats why the question was relevant.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk was carried because of the momentum. The hammer dropped shortly.
In Hela's case, the hammer didn't drop, nor did it cause her feet to cave in the ground.

Hulk was carried because of the enchantment. Now you need to ask yourself why Hela wasn't carried like Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
So basically, the hammer can be held but not lifted up or the enchantment did not work on Hela. Duh.
Thats why the question was relevant.

No, your question is idiotic. Once someone grabs the hammer the enchantment kicks in. Hulk and Hela both grabbed it when it was in motion. Hulk was carried by it, Hela didn't move. The only assumption that can be made here is that she overpowered it. This is further supported by the fact that she crushed Mjolnir with one hand.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The only assumption that can be made here is that she overpowered it. This is further supported by the fact that she crushed Mjolnir with one hand.

Also supported by Thor saying - this isnt possible - clearly in reference to the amount of raw power it would take to do what she did.

h1a8 youve lost the argument. Be a man for once and just concede. Or carry on confirming yourself to be the forum clown. Up to you.

Good point. Thor had never seen anyone hold the hammer against its will until Hela.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Hulk was carried because of the enchantment. Now you need to ask yourself why Hela wasn't carried like Hulk.

No, your question is idiotic. Once someone grabs the hammer the enchantment kicks in. Hulk and Hela both grabbed it when it was in motion. Hulk was carried by it, Hela didn't move. The only assumption that can be made here is that she overpowered it. This is further supported by the fact that she crushed Mjolnir with one hand.

My take is that either
1. The enchantment prevents lifting, not holding.

Or

2. Hela override the enchantment since she possibly has more authority than Odin himself.