Originally posted by Smurph
idk h1. Here he casually covers four miles (from rest to rest) while Punisher is looking right at him.In combination with the Thor scan, which literally spells out that Sentry can attack at MFTL, there is no question that his forum speed is way higher than your troll lowballing.
Flight speed. Any combat showings?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The fact that he can react and converse casually at many time the speed of light, whilst Thor is specifically disoriented from the sheer speed, isn't a reaction feat? Whilst he's fighting Thor?I can't believe how backwards we are traveling, as a nation, in terms of intelligence. Even back in the day, Superman explains how to create afterimages:
Don't forget in JLA/JSA crossover Superman not only made afterimages, but also made Jay(and Powergirl), a Flash(Kryptonian), statued
Anyway, the point is, Superman is awesome 😛
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The fact that he can react and converse casually at many time the speed of light, whilst Thor is specifically disoriented from the sheer speed, isn't a reaction feat? Whilst he's fighting Thor?
No, it's not. Then, it's linear. He flies, grab Thor and drops him off on a planet. Any combat showings?
Originally posted by carver9
If Gladiator threw a single punch at nano second speeds, then no, Nightwing isn't punching faster. Would a single punch leave an after image? Your question doesn't align with what we are debating about. Maybe you should post similar scans.Nightwing isn't leaving after images. Your scan is an action sequence showing us what Nightwing is doing. Saitama is actually creating images of himself, making it appear as more than one Saitama (from someone eyes who possess super speed) when in actuality, it's just one Saitama. Huge difference.
And when Gladiator is throwing a random punch? When Logan is randomly stabbing? Is a dying Robin many times faster than those guys, then?
When Hulk throws a random punch - is a dying Robin faster in combat than him?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Don't forget in JLA/JSA crossover Superman not only made afterimages, but also made Jay(and Powergirl), a Flash(Kryptonian), statuedAnyway, the point is, Superman is awesome 😛
Action sequence.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And when Gladiator is throwing a random punch? When Logan is randomly stabbing? Is a dying Robin many times faster than those guys, then?When Hulk throws a random punch - is a dying Robin faster in combat than him?
I dont know since Gladiator doesn't always throw light speed punches. I remember us debating this a while back but did Hulk catch a nano second punch here? If not, how fast was the punch? If so, can we just say Hulk have Gladiator/Supes level reactions? Let me know..
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Aren't you trying to avoid powerscaling?
How would that compare to say, Gladiator?I could use powerscaling and ask about Thanos (based in his fights with Surfer) but thought I'd keep it simple.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXXThen reverse the inquiry. What comic characters could duel at such speeds that they create a geometric light structure made up of hundreds if not thousands of light trails in the space of milliseconds?
no one has done that here. i was talking about the more manga-centric sites out there.right. i think that showing was brought up in the other thread. we know how much time elapsed during their fight, but having just that one figure still makes it really hard to say "that showing puts them on the level of -insert comic character-", no?
Originally posted by carver9
I dont know since Gladiator doesn't always throw light speed punches. I remember us debating this a while back but did Hulk catch a nano second punch here? If not, how fast was the punch? If so, can we just say Hulk have Gladiator/Supes level reactions? Let me know..
I am asking for their speed RELATIVE to a dying Robin's. Is it faster, slower, or same speed? Doesn't matter WHAT that speed is.
Originally posted by ODG
Aren't you trying to avoid powerscaling? Then reverse the inquiry. What comic characters could duel at such speeds that they create a geometric light structure made up of hundreds if not thousands of light trails in the space of milliseconds?
I am, hence why i said I wouldn't use it. I could, IF we were doing powerscaling, but I want to avoid all that kerfuffle and accusations of hypocrisy. Hence, Gladiator.
Got a question for Smurph and Saint. This is one of the slower peeps compared to Saitama and Garou (much slower). Be honest. Can you see Sentry blitzing past 2 people, punching them but his punches register AFTER the fact. He is already pass his opponents and his attacks/punches are still going on while he is on the other side of them talking. This would be a high end ft for Heralds/trans tiers but share your thoughts...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not asking for the absolute speed of Gladiator's punches.I am asking for their speed RELATIVE to a dying Robin's. Is it faster, slower, or same speed? Doesn't matter WHAT that speed is.
I dont know because I don't know how fast Gladiator, Hulk, Superman are punching during whatever scene.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But no matter what, based on art that clearly shows Robin's fists moving with afterimages, that he's faster than Gladiator/Hulk?
In the scene I posted above with Gladiator and Hulk, Robin is probably faster. Who knows. I wouldn't say every scene with these characters are at super speed.
Originally posted by carver9
In the scene I posted above with Gladiator and Hulk, Robin is probably faster. Who knows. I wouldn't say every scene with these characters are at super speed.
The fact that you don't know and can't say for sure, says it all really.
If afterimages are truly an indicator of speed, then Robin is definitely faster. No maybes about it. If you don't know, then.....it proves my point.
Thanks for playing.
Originally posted by carver9
Action sequence.
Lol, what you say man, what you say
https://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/LiveTwoCities.jpg
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, what you say man, what you sayhttps://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/LiveTwoCities.jpg
Nice showing in the first scan. Second scan is lame AF.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The fact that you don't know and can't say for sure, says it all really.If afterimages are truly an indicator of speed, then Robin is definitely faster. No maybes about it. If you don't know, then.....it proves my point.
Thanks for playing.
I dont think that showing with Robin is after images. It's just showing him punching pretty fast. Saitama is creating multiple images of him that looks like hard constructs which is different than what you are showing.
Also, again, who can do this and prove it...
Originally posted by carver9
I dont think that showing with Robin is after images. It's just showing him punching pretty fast. Saitama is creating multiple images of him that looks like hard constructs which is different than what you are showing.Also, again, who can do this and prove it...
It honestly doesn't matter now. The fact that you can't say for certain who is faster, based on art, when it suits you, tells me all I need to know.
