Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet

Originally posted by carver9
Is this just art?

https://imgur.io/wKwPwxi

He's nowhere close to human level, especially considering him performing fts that no one under Flash can perform.

Comic character speeds fts are garbage because their speed fts consists of things that contradicts their showings. Example, Batman now possess super speed...

https://ibb.co/J2kn8LZ
https://ibb.co/JmsD0xM

Strawman, as per usual.

Until you can give me numbers for ANY of Saitama's feats, just one..... you've already conceded.

But thanks for supporting my point that comic art isn't a guide to relative speeds. Your example shows at best, you can say Bizarro and Zoom are equal ish. You can't say it means he's faster than say Surfer based on that.

Even though you put hard numbers on this showing while being wrong?

https://ibb.co/YZWmDtn

Applying real world logic to a fairy tale story is the wrong approach involving comics.

Originally posted by carver9
Even though you put hard numbers on this showing while being wrong?

https://ibb.co/YZWmDtn

Applying real world logic to a fairy tale story is the wrong approach involving comics.

The hard numbers came from the text. You'd know, if you read it.

Aren't you the one who PMd me asking to calculate DBZ feats?

That settles it, he stops at BB

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not asking for the absolute speed of Gladiator's punches.

I am asking for their speed RELATIVE to a dying Robin's. Is it faster, slower, or same speed? Doesn't matter WHAT that speed is.

It just means that Robin, that one time, punched faster than Gladiator when Gladiator WASN'T USING ANY SUPER SPEED.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That settles it, he stops at BB

Why?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That settles it, he stops at BB

Originally posted by Smurph
Obviously it's not the same, because comics and manga aren't the same. But why is your scan more impressive than Surfer's? This stuff about anime speed is a point that you repeatedly assert without proving.

Anyways, at the very, very minimum Sentry has objectively landed an attack at MFTL speed. Saitama has not, unless you can show that the Io afterimages required MFTL speed (arguments about the retcon notwithstanding).

So, h1 repeatedly arguing that Saitama is faster than bullet-catching is a strawman and thus irrelevant.

Originally posted by Enzeru
1. Sentry has moved fast enough to leave mirror images:
https://imgur.com/WNglVrq

He is all over the place and you see various afterimages performing various tasks. That alone is better than mere moving from point A to point B to juke someone.
But since these are comics we're talking about, his speed gets nerfed on the next page, when he faces the Hulk. There they wrestle and some comedy gets added in.

2. Here is a speed feat of Monster Garou fighting Platinum Sperm. At this point they're both faster than Flashy Flash, who is supposedly as fast as light, lol (according to Carver):
https://imgur.com/a/H2Hqyq3

I'm gonna be generous here and say that the left number on the timer is for the minutes instead of hours. Let's do treat it as a stopwatch, since that's the intention.

00:00'0"00
Minutes😖econds'Deciseconds"Centiseconds.

A decisecond is one tenth of a second. A Centisecond is one hundredth of a second.

Monster Garou performs a couple of actions within 50 Centiseconds, which would be half a second. That results in a bunch of afterimages and this aftermath, which also shows the afterimages:
https://i.imgur.com/nsmBInF.png

3. Amazing feat for Garou, but Sentry operates in milliseconds at the very least:
https://i.imgur.com/yniIv42.jpeg

That's one thousandth of a second. So Sentry would perceive Garous attacks in slow motion.

You can make the argument (rightfully so) that Cosmic Fear Garou and Upgraded Saitama are faster than that, but by how much? Monster Garou is faster than Flashy Flash, who was already slower than Blast... And we have Blast not being able to cancel planet busting power. Then that leads me to believe that the upper power levels in One-Punch Man are not on the high herald level. Because everything else is no limits fallacy. Keep in mind that Cosmic Fear Garous attacks were nuke level:
https://imgur.com/a/yCpjGm4

Again, it's an amazing power level, but... does it trump even high herald power? Hell no. And some people are seriously arguing that Cosmic Fear Garou would beat DS Sentry. Or any Sentry for that matter.

(Do you want to argue Saitama farting himself from Jupiter to Earth in few seconds? It takes light around 45 minutes to travel that distance. But such a travel time is still nothing the Sentry hasn't outperformed before.)

4. I also saw Carver stating that Saitama and Garou punched a hole in the universe. That of course is nonsense as well. He was referring to this instance:
https://i.imgur.com/CvSgS22.jpg

That big black dot is where the center of the explosion was. Everything around is the aftermath of the explosion. Carver must be confusing it with the universe and the black dot being a hole, where the stars could have been. Nah. Look at the manga issue and you'll see that the entire space in those scans was constantly pure black.

But you know who did punch a hole in the universe? The Sentry:
https://i.imgur.com/VVsverx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UpcgtxS.jpg

Wake me up, when anyone in One-Punch Man gets a feat on that level.

I'm surprised "charcuterie" didn't kill this thread.

Originally posted by h1a8
HE ONE PUNCHES BB
😕

How far do you think he goes? I personally think he stops at 11.

Originally posted by h1a8
Sentry didn't land an attack within battle distance that was faster than light speed. Showing Sentry obtaining a speed AFTER spending time and distance gaining speed is not a fighting speed feat.
How much time will it take Sentry to travel 50ft starting from rest? The average fighting distance mid battle.

also:

Originally posted by Smurph
idk h1. Here he casually covers four miles (from rest to rest) while Punisher is looking right at him.

https://imgur.io/n1HJyBS

In combination with the Thor scan, which literally spells out that Sentry can attack at MFTL, there is no question that his forum speed is way higher than your troll lowballing.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm surprised "charcuterie" didn't kill this thread.

hey baby

I'm debating against the same people that posted a Green Lantern shooting a beam of light from his ring as a comparison of beings moving so fast they created light beams from their bodies. Obviously a HUGE difference and isn't comparable at all, lol.

Originally posted by h1a8

Sentry didn't land an attack within battle distance that was faster than light speed. Showing Sentry obtaining a speed AFTER spending time and distance gaining speed is not a fighting speed feat.

So no quantifiable speed and reaction feats?

You seriously can't be that dense, bro.

If you can see bullets moving in slow motion, walk to them and grab them before they point blank hit someone in the head, then that's a reaction + movement + action feat. If you can gracefully pick bullets from high-powered alien snipers out of the sky, then you can also throw punches really, really fast. Especially when you can also repair an entire tower in mere moments, which requires hundreds of actions.

I seriously hope for your sake that you don't actually believe that Sentry can't move his limbs fast and only has travel speed.

Originally posted by h1a8

How much time will it take Sentry to travel 50ft starting from rest? The average fighting distance mid battle.

A literal instant:
https://i.imgur.com/n1HJyBS.jpg

Or are you somehow going to argue that Sentry couldn't have punched a hole through Punishers chest in this instance? He can move his arms fast enough to catch bullets, but somehow he can't use his super speed to bitchslap someone into another dimension?

Originally posted by h1a8

The last measurment is in miliiseconds, not centiseconds. They are 1/100 of a decisecond, which is a millisecond.

You're right. I double checked. And yet he is STILL slower than the Sentry, based on numbers alone. Take statements out of the equation and consider the fact that nanosecond character Gladiator is most likely still slower than the Sentry... and you are in for an even bigger beating.

Not that this in particular even matters.

I do believe that Monster Garou is ultimately faster than the Sentry. But what's the point in being faster if your evolved form causes nuke level attacks – which is something a character like the Sentry eats for breakfast? You can be as fast as you want, but it won't do you any good, if you break your hands upon punching your opponent. That's how I see the fight going.

Originally posted by Enzeru
You seriously can't be that dense, bro.

If you can see bullets moving in slow motion, walk to them and grab them before they point blank hit someone in the head, then that's a reaction + movement + action feat. If you can gracefully pick bullets from high-powered alien snipers out of the sky, then you can also throw punches really, really fast. Especially when you can also repair an entire tower in mere moments, which requires hundreds of actions.

I seriously hope for your sake that you don't actually believe that Sentry can't move his limbs fast and only has travel speed.

A literal instant:
https://i.imgur.com/n1HJyBS.jpg

Or are you somehow going to argue that Sentry couldn't have punched a hole through Punishers chest in this instance? He can move his arms fast enough to catch bullets, but somehow he can't use his super speed to bitchslap someone into another dimension?

You're right. I double checked. And yet he is STILL slower than the Sentry, based on numbers alone. Take statements out of the equation and consider the fact that nanosecond character Gladiator is most likely still slower than the Sentry... and you are in for an even bigger beating.

Not that this in particular even matters.

I do believe that Monster Garou is ultimately faster than the Sentry. But what's the point in being faster if your evolved form causes nuke level attacks – which is something a character like the Sentry eats for breakfast? You can be as fast as you want, but it won't do you any good, if you break your hands upon punching your opponent. That's how I see the fight going.

I've stated countless times (no offense to you since you just got on here) that the only quantifiable speed feat for Sentry is when he caught the bullet. I been stating this for eons. That's the fastest we can use for him in battle. I can actually calculate how much time he can traverse 50ft. I can calculate his lowest reflex times, etc.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm debating against the same people that posted a Green Lantern shooting a beam of light from his ring as a comparison of beings moving so fast they created light beams from their bodies. Obviously a HUGE difference and isn't comparable at all, lol.

why is it not comparable, both are light traveling at lightspeed

They are not comparable. One is a beam of light (energy attack) and the other is a body moving so fast it's creating hundreds (if not thousands) condense beams of light.

Originally posted by carver9
They are not comparable. One is a beam of light (energy attack) and the other is a body moving so fast it's creating hundreds (if not thousands) condense beams of light.

do you know how fast? was it stated on panel how fast he was moving?

what if saitama is actually below lightspeed?