Originally posted by Galan007
Could also be a case of Doomsday subconsciously holding back to an extent. He'd never fought anyone with Superman's level of strength/durability beforehand, so he may have went in thinking that Supes was just like the countless run-of-the-mill feebs he'd encountered previously. Hence why DD's first strike was no-sold, but his later strikes visibly affected Superman(and I'm not even factoring in the "dynamic strength" thing here.)Like if I went my whole life owning droves of 3 year olds with ease and didn't think there was anyone stronger out there, I'd probably attack a fully grown man with the same level of force that was usually adequate to own said toddlers... But once I saw that he was clearly stronger than a 3 year old, I'd be like "oh shit, I have to hit this guy harder." /shrug
But he’s been fighting powerful foes. He struck fear in Darkseid’s heart before he landed on earth. Darkseid wouldn’t have been afraid if doomsday was cutting up light weights.
As Juntai stated, when Superman planted his feet and braces for a punch, there not much that can move him. He took doomsdays first punch. Doomsday could have then gone with a stronger punch but he went straight to a kick in the chest.
It’s not really a speed feat because Superman thought he would tank it and took the blow.
His conversation with booster gold also kinda made me suspect Superman took him lightly at first. But after he got kicked that all changed.
"Powerful" is a subjective term. Yes, the foes Doomsday had faced beforehand were "powerful" by your typical metric -- but in comparison to DD, they were all insignificant feebs. Superman, however, was an anomaly... Doomsday had never faced anyone that powerful before.
My only point is that if DD had gone his entire life owning people with, say, 50% of his max power(as an arbitrary number), and had no idea that anyone stronger existed, then it would make sense for him to attack Superman with that same level of power initially... But once he saw that Superman was more than the rest, he logically would have stepped it up accordingly.
Originally posted by Delta1938A bit weird in the way its worded, saying he's "nourished by solar energy" I could see why someone would think that. But Superman is sustained by only sunlight in the same way. Superman doesn't need water, food, air or sleep.
Unless there was a retcon, Doomsday wasn't powered by sunlight the same way. Was a food source, not power source. Would be a starving Doomsday though, but not the same thing as a Kryptonian underground not exposed to sunlight.And not sure if his burial shroud blocked or not, would be explained in later comics if it did.
Also, Doomsday is a creature of Krypton that's been hyper-evolved.
Every creature we've seen from Krypton come to Earth is powered up by solar energy. From people, to dogs and cats, and even other wildlife like dragon-like creatures.
I haven't seen anything to say he's an exception to the rule, especially when noted that he's nourished by in the same way as other Kyrptonians.
Of course, he also doesn't seem limited to yellow sun either. But that could be product of his hyper-evolution of Kryptonian genes.
Originally posted by Galan007
"Powerful" is a subjective term. Yes, the foes Doomsday had faced beforehand were "powerful" by your typical metric -- but in comparison to DD, they were all insignificant feebs. Superman, however, was an anomaly... Doomsday had never faced anyone that powerful before.My only point is that if DD had gone his entire life owning people with, say, 50% of his max power(as an arbitrary number), and had no idea that anyone stronger existed, then it would make sense for him to attack Superman with that same level of power initially... But once he saw that Superman was more than the rest, he logically would have stepped it up accordingly.
Ok, makes sense to me. 👆
Alright, I'm late but late is better than not posting at all. Everything I mention here is facts and can not be ignored. It's proof that the characters along with Doomsday is weak AF in DOS and everything is based off hype along with ignoring what was displayed in the comic which DarkSaint85 usual don't do except in this case. The only thing we have as evidence of DOS characters being powerful is a hyperbole statement done years after the original comic release. Anyways...
We get one official statement on how fast Doomsday is, a non holding back Doomsday and he's slow AF. He is below the speed of sound and this is his speed ft AFTER Superman was unable to catch him, Superman complimenting his speed, the Justice League saying he is fast, etc...
Even at speeds below the speed of sound, Superman couldn't even catch him. Superman heard a child screaming and had to make a decision on if he should help the child or catch Doomsday before he reached the city. Even at half the speed of light, hell, a fraction of that, Superman should have been capable of grabbing Doomsday, throwing him away from pedestrians, save the child and get back into the fight again...
And Booster Gold was able to react to him as well...
And it's funny Dark throws up Superman withstanding a punch by Doomsday but moments after that getting the wind kicked out of him. Let me guess, Dark is going to mention "Doomsday was getting stronger". This makes your argument even worse because Doomsday took out the league right after that and a Booster Gold with no shield withstood a beating from a non-holding back Doomsday...
And let's not forget this. Pages before Superman got the wind kicked out of him, this happened. Blue Beetle survived a beating from an all out Doomsday that had just finished koing Martian Manhunter and Maxima (and kicked the wind out of Supes)...
So what do we have so far? A shieldless Booster withstanding an all out Doomsday attack. Blue Beetle surviving Doomsday all out attack. Doomsday moving while going all out at under the speed of sound. Superman failing to catch him at those speeds pages after. Let's continue. Superman durability in DOS was trash. We all remember the gas station explosion scene...
Also got koed by some pillars falling on him...
https://ibb.co/wJtPXws
https://ibb.co/b2FPKTY
Got koed again by some pillars being kicked at him (that a meta level character survived)...
Superman was terrified of Doomsday reaching Metropolis and only had enough strength to hurl Doomsday a few 100 miles and admitted he probably weighed a ton
https://ibb.co/MsFykqQ
https://ibb.co/sQHvBDw
Conclusion. Based off speed and strength fts from ALL characters in that story, Doomsday overall wasn't impressive. His speed fts during the time he fought Superman was well below the speed of sound and even before that, Superman failed to catch him while he was jumping. Superman durability throughout the run is questionable along with his strength. The entire book was full of metas. Superman after DOS is a great character but DOS did not portray these weak ass characters right.
Originally posted by carver9
Alright, I'm late but late is better than not posting at all. Everything I mention here is facts and can not be ignored. It's proof that the characters along with Doomsday is weak AF in DOS and everything is based off hype along with ignoring what was displayed in the comic which DarkSaint85 usual don't do except in this case. The only thing we have as evidence of DOS characters being powerful is a hyperbole statement done years after the original comic release. Anyways...We get one official statement on how fast Doomsday is, a non holding back Doomsday and he's slow AF. He is below the speed of sound and this is his speed ft AFTER Superman was unable to catch him, Superman complimenting his speed, the Justice League saying he is fast, etc...
Even at speeds below the speed of sound, Superman couldn't even catch him. Superman heard a child screaming and had to make a decision on if he should help the child or catch Doomsday before he reached the city. Even at half the speed of light, hell, a fraction of that, Superman should have been capable of grabbing Doomsday, throwing him away from pedestrians, save the child and get back into the fight again...
And Booster Gold was able to react to him as well...
And it's funny Dark throws up Superman withstanding a punch by Doomsday but moments after that getting the wind kicked out of him. Let me guess, Dark is going to mention "Doomsday was getting stronger". This makes your argument even worse because Doomsday took out the league right after that and a Booster Gold with no shield withstood a beating from a non-holding back Doomsday...
And let's not forget this. Pages before Superman got the wind kicked out of him, this happened. Blue Beetle survived a beating from an all out Doomsday that had just finished koing Martian Manhunter and Maxima (and kicked the wind out of Supes)...
So what do we have so far? A shieldless Booster withstanding an all out Doomsday attack. Blue Beetle surviving Doomsday all out attack. Doomsday moving while going all out at under the speed of sound. Superman failing to catch him at those speeds pages after. Let's continue. Superman durability in DOS was trash. We all remember the gas station explosion scene...
Also got koed by some pillars falling on him...
https://ibb.co/wJtPXws
https://ibb.co/b2FPKTYGot koed again by some pillars being kicked at him (that a meta level character survived)...
Superman was terrified of Doomsday reaching Metropolis and only had enough strength to hurl Doomsday a few 100 miles and admitted he probably weighed a ton
https://ibb.co/MsFykqQ
https://ibb.co/sQHvBDwConclusion. Based off speed and strength fts from ALL characters in that story, Doomsday overall wasn't impressive. His speed fts during the time he fought Superman was well below the speed of sound and even before that, Superman failed to catch him while he was jumping. Superman durability throughout the run is questionable along with his strength. The entire book was full of metas. Superman after DOS is a great character but DOS did not portray these weak ass characters right.
Originally posted by abhilegend
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Originally posted by carver9
Just rude
Some people mistake honesty for rudeness.
Originally posted by Smurph
😂 it reads like the intro to a conspiracy theory
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Originally posted by carver9
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I love that you call it all Trash.
Originally posted by carver9
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