Originally posted by carver9
A snail has snuck up on Superman. Solomon Grundy, Kalibak, Mongul, Batman, Konvikt, Deathstroke, etc... and we still consider him a speedster. Heck, some of these people knocked him TF out. It's a sneak attack. Now if she straight up blitzed him, then we can talk.
Your scan literally states she's trying to take Amazo by surprise lmao.
So WW took him by surprise (mostly). Zatanna took him by surprise. Canary took him by surprise.
Maybe Amazo is weak to women 😂
Originally posted by carver9
Yep, while he's not paying attention to her. Vixen was a huge danger and he wanted to expose of her. Zatanna was nothing to him at the time, so that's why she was able to tackle him there. Maybe you can show me a speed blitz like Amazo did against Superman who was looking right at him.
So again, you are telling me that when you are reading on your phone someone is able to very slowly push you over?
Are you retarded?
I mean, we even see how fast he can think - literally shown on panel:
Unless....Canary is talking at superspeed there (lmao)? Then screaming at superspeed, and her Canary Cry is also faster than sound (lmao)? He KNEW Canary was on his back, so no surprises there, unlike WW who HAD to take him by surprise as it was her only chance.
Canary just straight up destroyed him.
I think you're retarded for thinking writers go to this extent that you're trying to paint out here. 🤣
You're asking me if something can sneak up on a being in a comic book. Why don't you ask me why Superman and Darkseid can fight in a city without any damage to the buildings. Why don't you ask me how Galactus can have full on fights on a planet without it being destroyed. Didn't a Beyonder level creature just fight the Avengers in an office? Why was an Imp going all out able to fight on Earth without damaging it? Why was Superman mentioned as being able to go as fast as light but couldn't land a lick on an Imp and got punch koed but the same imp moments later struggled to hit Robin. Does that make Robin speed and durability>>>>Superman? You're just trolling and thinking way too hard on comic book characters.
Originally posted by carver9
I think you're retarded for thinking writers go to this extent that you're trying to paint out here. 🤣You're asking me if something can sneak up on a being in a comic book. Why don't you ask me why Superman and Darkseid can fight in a city without any damage to the buildings. Why don't you ask me how Galactus can have full on fights on a planet without it being destroyed. Didn't a Beyonder level creature just fight the Avengers in an office? Why was an Imp going all out able to fight on Earth without damaging it? Why was Superman mentioned as being able to go as fast as light but couldn't land a lick on an Imp and got punch koed but the same imp moments later struggled to hit Robin. Does that make Robin speed and durability>>>>Superman? You're just trolling and thinking way too hard on comic book characters.
Ah cool.
So in this scene:
As Smurph points out, it's just WW sneak attacking Amazo, not a speed feat. She had to build up speed to do so, yes, but...Canary and a handicapped Zatanna are able to do the same without needing to.
Great scan Carv, you just prove WW < Black Canary/powerless handicapped Zatanna in speed 👆
Edit: you know, I am starting to think the writer just wanted to show that WW has zero idea about her teammates (especially Superman) and herself. Another direct comparison she makes is strength:
I mean, no-one would read her words and take them seriously, would they? Or has Darksaint gotten another Almighty Bruce showing? A being stronger than Superman and Wonder Woman, combined, only.....KOs Batman momentarily? Hmm.
This may be the greatest comic ever.
Also, can street-level characters duplicate the feats of, say, bullet/laser timing that Wonder Woman does? For example, if you surround a blindfolded Batman with gunmen who have machine guns, could they empty their magazines at him and he still be alive after having deflected every round?
Can street-levelers deflect heat vision from multiple angles?
I don't know if she can or can't, but I do know both Flash and Superman cannot, and both are faster than Zod.
It stands to reason that WW could easily react to anything Zod will be able to do if both are at max capacity, because at max capacity, he is much slower than Kal or Flash and WW is much faster reaction-wise.
Like WW, could probably be fast enough to stop dead in her tracks, do a 180, and deflect the Omega beams rather than running.
In order to intercept an object, you must arrive at the location where it will be simultaneously or before it arrives. This frequently means that you have to travel farther in less time than the thing you are intercepting.
For instance, if you have to intercept a missile moving at 1,000 mph, you have to go more quickly than 1,000 mph to get to the interception site in time.
In intercepting scenarios, reaction time affects the accuracy of predicting the interception point. A slower reaction time necessitates higher speeds to ensure the interceptor reaches the correct position in time.
Intercepting an object typically requires a higher initial speed to reach the interception point in time. Chasing an object requires a speed greater than the object’s speed but does not necessarily require increasing your speed once you are faster than the object.
Originally posted by TGATESThat's fine, but those feats don't establish her speed relative to Zod.
Diana would essentially be using the same reaction to react to Zod.
They don't even establish her speed relative to Kal or Flash. Her ability to intercept something doesn't make her faster than someone who fails to outrun the same thing.
So "Could Zod outrun the omega beams?" is a useless metric.