Zod vs Wonder Woman

She would have to be several times faster than HV to be able to use her hands to block it in combat.

Originally posted by Smurph
lol, bullshit

You are trolling and lying and also bad at basic math.

Heat vision is usually up played in DC. Superman compared this character speed to Flash and moments later, he questions if the guy is faster than heat vision. Wonder Woman blitzing in front of Amazo attack and blocking all of them is indeed a comparison of her speed versus heat vision

Aren't you the guy who gets irritated when people bring up various different comics up and combine them?

The problem isn't the general notion that blocking HV can be a speed feat. The problem is with the dishonest scaling, claiming that blocking something requires operating multiple times faster than it.

DS and I both made this point on the last page, but tgates wants to keep making stuff up.

Otherwise, Zod catching Superman's fist means he is "several times" faster than Superman.

You sure you want to make that argument?

Originally posted by Smurph
Otherwise, Zod catching Superman's fist means he is "several times" faster than Superman.

You sure you want to make that argument?

Superman doesn't always operate at optimal speed and isn't always consistent. Same can not be said about heat vision.

Originally posted by Smurph
The problem isn't the general notion that blocking HV can be a speed feat. The problem is with the dishonest scaling, claiming that blocking something requires operating multiple times faster than it.

DS and I both made this point on the last page, but tgates wants to keep making stuff up.

She would have to be much faster than the object/laser to intercept it with her bracelets. If the attack can be assumed to be a light-based attack, then she has to be faster than light to block it in those instances. It simply won't work unless it's slow HV or light-based attack, and there is no such thing.

Very few times, no matter what, has WW been unable to block shit. From all sides....while blind in some instances.

Her superspeed is not explained at all. That is the main issue. Maybe they don't want her to be too much like a Kryptonian?

You can try to make the claim that XYZ street-level character has dodged bullets and lasers, but no one comes close to what WW does. So those are outliers for them.

No one really knows how she does it other than "super speed," of which you are trying to negate.

So, again, at full capacity, Zod is light speed and WW is going to react at FTL speeds.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman doesn't always operate at optimal speed and isn't always consistent.

No reason to think he was throwing fists slowly.

Originally posted by carver9
Same can not be said about heat vision.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman doesn't always operate at optimal speed and isn't always consistent. Same can not be said about heat vision.

This you?

Originally posted by carver9
So how fast is freeze breath? Let's put it like this, Flash and Super was running 2000 mps and Superman heat vision couldn't touch Flash at this speed. Is Superman heat vision slower than his ice breath?

Originally posted by Smurph
But in this case, he was throwing a series of punches, hitting hard and fast enough to bloody Zod, saying "fall, damn you. Fall!". Even has one of those faded afterimages.

No reason to think he was throwing fists slowly.

Sure it can. Batman dodged HV after it was fired. HV can job just like anything else can.

Tbf, I don't think people know of this scene.

He's just trolling Superman, and just casually dealing with him even as Superman is grunting with effort and trying to KO him.

Very few times, no matter what, has WW been unable to block shit. From all sides....while blind in some instances.

Totally. Look at her technique as she blocks this leg grab:

Originally posted by TGATES
Very few times, no matter what, has WW been unable to block shit. From all sides....while blind in some instances.

Like Batman's fists?

Oh wait, Carver will say that this is an old quote of his? But....he's using comics from the exact same timeframe as the Amazo scan, so it would appear that back in the day, when WW was slapping HV out the sky, Carver was fully convinced that the top speed of HV was < 2000 mps....

Strange, that.

Originally posted by Smurph
But in this case, he was throwing a series of punches, hitting hard and fast enough to bloody Zod, saying "fall, damn you. Fall!". Even has one of those faded afterimages.

No reason to think he was throwing fists slowly.

Sure it can. Batman dodged HV after it was fired. HV can job just like anything else can.

Wasn't he blind? Also, that doesn't mean he was fighting FTL. If that's the case, you might as well say Sentry was doing the same against Hulk.

Originally posted by Smurph

Totally. Look at her technique as she blocks this leg grab:

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And Mongul has knocked Superman out. What's your point?

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Point is, Zod blitzed Mongul, something WW has never done
Very good debating, Carv.

And Wonder Woman has blitzed Amazo. Someone who is faster than both Zod and Mongul.

Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't he blind? Also, that doesn't mean he was fighting FTL. If that's the case, you might as well say Sentry was doing the same against Hulk.

Hulk and Sentry have nothing to do with this thread.

Are you trying to say that characters can block something FTL without moving FTL?

Who was also destroyed - in the exact same story - by Black Canary hopping on him.

But you asked what the point of using Mongul was, so clearly you're not following arguments lol, Mr HV is slower than 2000mps 😂

Originally posted by carver9
And Wonder Woman has blitzed Amazo. Someone who is faster than both Zod and Mongul.

Originally posted by carver9
It's a sneak attack. Now if she straight up blitzed him, then we can talk.

And Zod sneaked attack Mongul. Lmmfao. I'm guessing you missed that part. Same scenario.