Batman vs Daredevil

Started by abhilegend14 pages
abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Philosophía
The reason why I'm asking is, if you'd accept it from Shiva [or any non-amped character], then there would be no need for magical amp qualifier [and we also know there's a shitload of non-amped characters bullet timing in the first place, too]. And from that would come my next question, which is how high do you think a feat from Batman could go, before you consider it PIS? Because if you'd be drawing the line at bullet-timing for what is PIS and not PIS [and I'm not saying you are], then then there's no way for Elektra to be surpassed within that framework without stepping into the PIS territory.

Anything that shows him faster than Elektra or Daredevil is PIS. Classic KMC argument, harkening back to the era where almost all of Superman's feats were PIS but Thor and Silver Surfer were allowed free pass.

Smurph tu quoqumber

More whining without a counter argument. I just said I would accept the same feats from Batman if he had the feats.

This isn't a Marvel/DC thing, for me at least.

Senor Cage Senior Member

Elektra is screwed. The more powerful the character is (according to Elektra fans), the more advantage Batman has. lol

Smurph tu quoqumber

It's telling how weirdly rattled you all seem to be. I honestly didn't think Batman's HV feat being PIS would be controversial? Yet, Golgo crisis management is in full swing.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
More whining without a counter argument. I just said I would accept the same feats from Batman if he had the feats.

This isn't a Marvel/DC thing, for me at least.


😂

Where are all the supersonic feats for Elektra?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
It's telling how weirdly rattled you all seem to be. I honestly didn't think Batman's HV feat being PIS would be controversial? Yet, Golgo crisis management is in full swing.

Your double standards are laughable.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Where are all the supersonic feats for Elektra?

You're the one stuck on the word supersonic, not me. I've shown you a number of bullet timing feats, and there are more.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your double standards are laughable.
You're throwing a tantrum.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
You're the one stuck on the word supersonic, not me. I've shown you a number of bullet timing feats, and there are more.

Without an actual supersonic speed feat from Elektra, those are PIS. Just like Batman moving faster than heat vision, I'm merely applying your logic.
Originally posted by Smurph
You're throwing a tantrum.

😂

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
Without an actual supersonic speed feat from Elektra, those are PIS. Just like Batman moving faster than heat vision, I'm merely applying your logic.
😂
No, I never demanded a sprinting feat from Batman, lol.

Let me know when you've got something to say besides complaining.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Running speed is almost always the true metric of speed in comics, Flash/Superman/Sonic are true speedsters because they run fast.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
No, I never demanded a sprinting feat from Batman, lol.

Let me know when you've got something to say besides complaining.


That's your problem, not mine.

I'm asking you to prove your claim that Elektra is too quick for bullets by providing a supersonic speed feat from her. Not too much to ask.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Without an actual supersonic speed feat from Elektra, those are PIS. Just like Batman moving faster than heat vision, I'm merely applying your logic.
😂

You do realize that light is over 800,000 times faster than sound, right? That's like saying that if we allow a human characters feat of lifting of a single ton as high end but allowable it should excuse the feat of a different human character lifting 8 Nimitz-class aircraft carriers since they weigh about 100,000 tons each

Smurph tu quoqumber

I've posted multiple bullet timing feats including one that says "I'm too quick for bullets"

You moving the goalposts because you don't like it is not my problem.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans
Originally posted by darthgoober
You do realize that light is over 800,000 times faster than light, right?

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

No way, light is so much faster than light.

That's like saying that if we allow a human characters feat of lifting of a single ton as high end but allowable it should excuse the feat of a different human character lifting 8 Nimitz-class aircraft carriers since they weigh about 100,000 tons each

A human being faster than a bullet is absurd, just like a human being faster than light. Just because one is more absurd doesn't mean the other is more plausible. If you want to apply PIS for one, do it for both otherwise its just double standards.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
I've posted multiple bullet timing feats including one that says "I'm too quick for bullets"

You moving the goalposts because you don't like it is not my problem.


Bullets are supersonic on average and if Elektra is faster than bullets that means she's supersonic in speed. If she's not supersonic in speed, that means her being faster than bullets is PIS.

It's basic logic test.

Smurph tu quoqumber

She's not merely human though.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Its like I claim Silver Surfer is equal to Superman in speed but fail to provide any feats for him at that level.

Oh wait, nevermind.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Smurph
She's not merely human though.

More reason for her to have supersonic speed feats then.

Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its like I claim Silver Surfer is equal to Superman in speed but fail to provide any feats for him at that level.

Oh wait, nevermind.

I've never claimed that, so clearly this has turned into a Marvel/DC thing for you, which it isn't for me.