Registered: Mar 2005
Location: In "Devil May Cry" movie
What DD says above, and also because I don't buy that Anakin was EVER at peace with the force until his redemption in ROTJ.
Is hiding in a swamp for 2 decades a reflection of Yodas true self?
I don't think so.
As far as we knew in 1983, Anakin Skywalker looked like Sebastian Shaw before he went into the suit. So it is believeanle that his spirit looks that way. You can't have a spirit with severed limbs & hope to have a happy ending. Now, Yoda & Obi-Wan faded away when they joined the force, then reappeared the same way. The physical remains of the redeemed Anakin Skywalker did not disappear. What appeared to Luke on Endor was the spirit trapped within him from before he turned to the dark side. Is a spirit expected to age?
If Lucas didn't change it, I wouldn't have asked him to. But once he did, I instantly got his concept. And that's what is shown in the movies. What he shows us is the story (please save your revisionist "well, that's what he says in this release" jokes for... never). The bottom line is that Star Wars is, essentially, a fairy tale. We've got no connection to a Shaw-looking Anakin. We know Hayden's Anakin. That's the fairy tale ending, seeing the person we knew redeemed. If you're saying Anakin should look like Sebastian Shaw when he's a spirit, then he should've looked like Sebastian Shaw when he fell to the dark side, or the spirit should've been a floating, scarred torso. Like I said, you don't have to like it, but how can you not understand what Lucas was going for when he put Hayden's head in there?
And wtf does that staetment about Yoda in the swamp mean really? You mean "a reflection of what he likes to do, in his spare time if he had the choice"? That doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about.
kremzike, I understand Lucas's reasons for putting Hayden in their and it does make sense in a way... But I'd still prefer to see Shaw there. It just makes more sense to me... meh, it's not something I'm gonna lose sleep over.
See, and that's cool. I'm totally cool with people who don't like it. I just have a problem with the people that don't understand it. And, as we know, they are out there. But yeah. Right on.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: None of your freaking business!
I don't care what you guys say, I like it. And when I was around 5 or 6, I thought that the spirit next to Yoda and Obi-Wan was like Luke's uncle. So that was confusing. But hey, I was only 5!
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: In "Devil May Cry" movie
First of all, I NEVER said I didn't like it (it always amazes me when people start bashing without thougourly reading a post (krem)), but the age thing I question.
In response to the WTF about mentioning Yoda in the swamp, this was a response to an earlier explanation that the age thing was relative to a Jedi's "true self", which I think Yoda was past at this point, having been beaten, forced into exile and living a life of regret with only a glimmer of possible redemption. VERY much a reflection of "what were talking about".
And YES, of course, a spirit should be expected to age, if it is a reflection of a (once) living being.
I said, "It's ok if people dont like it." That is a general statement. Not one directed at you or anyone else in particular. I never said, "I don't get why you don't like it." Maybe you're just hoping for someone to start a fight with you, but that ain't me.
How would a dormant spirit age? It's essentially a ghost itself, trapped. Dead.