But in ESB Yoda said that Luke was too old to begin the training(he nearly refused to train Luke all together because of this.) So even if we don't want to assume the Jedi training could have started as early as birth, it definitely could have started much sooner than it did--even in the OT.
^ Yeah, where the OT is concerned, that's kind of what I was getting at.
Though training someone from near-birth makes a lot more sense, tbh. By the time they've become a teenager(and beyond), most people already have well established self-imposed limitations/mental-blocks in place. It's simply much harder for them to grasp the notion that they can perform the impossible.
Beginning the training from a very young age means they are far more receptive to the "there is no try" mentality.
I'd also add that Obi Wan may actually prefer not to train Anakin's family at all. From experience the Skywalkers have proved to be too dangerous to be meddled with, maybe during his years into hiding OB1 tried to train something else or stop Anakin differently?
Is it? Taking kids away from their parents makes really good completely screwed up people. It's one of the worst concepts in the SW universe.
It's like with many talents: if you don't CHOOSE for something you will never reach full potential. Pro sportsmen are people who choose for a professional sports future when they're over twelve years old. That would make a lot more sense to me.
You'd think so. However, that method of recruitment/training enabled the Jedi Order to flourish over the years, so it definitely worked... And worked well. The Jedi of the PT were, after all, among the finest the Order had ever produced.
Anywho, if children begin the training early enough, they wouldn't remember much of their life before the Order anyway. And while an exact --or 'optimal'-- age was never given as to when a child was recruited, Anakin, who was 9y/o in TPM, was considered "FAR too old" to begin the training... So we know children were initially recruited into the Order at a much younger age than 9.
Sounds cold(and it is), but protection is protection, I guess. /shrug
Last edited by Galan007 on Jan 16th, 2016 at 09:16 PM
Despite being cruel, would you wanna live with someone who isn't able to control said mystic power, lashing out at you with it and being able to kill you without so much hesitation?
I mean there's cons to both sides here, though one is worse than the other, because said person could end up being shunned by their fellows for being labeled as a freak of nature, or outright killed because the people are scared or what said person can do. Or said person could end up killing everyone, due to being labeled as a freak and ridiculed.
Not saying it always happens, but there is that possibility.
__________________ "It didn't matter what they'd been before. All that mattered was that they were willing to fight—and maybe die—for the Alliance."―Col Serra.
Last edited by Zenwolf on Jan 16th, 2016 at 09:42 PM
'Fanboy' is a rather disrespectful insult for a mod(of all people) to call another member who was having a civilized discussion.
Is this forum not dedicated to discussing a purely fictional franchise? Why in the heck would I cling to real world ideologies here? I specifically said in my last post that my opinion is based on how things work from an 'in-universe POV'.
There's no need to bash/flame me for giving a perfectly reasonable, and moreover logical opinion regarding the question posed in the OP.
Last edited by Galan007 on Jan 17th, 2016 at 04:27 PM
I'm not saying that pulling children from their families at a very young age isn't cold(it obviously is.) I'm just saying that, from an in-universe POV, this method of recruitment/training obviously worked very well, because the Jedi Order was at its peak in the PT. That much isn't an opinion, it's a fact.
Maybe recruiting force-sensitives at an older age would work better. Who knows? Although I'd think if that were the case, the Order would have adopted that method instead. /shrug
Not sure why you think it's so weird for me to reference facts from the series... In a forum dedicated to discussing facts from the series..?
Last edited by Galan007 on Jan 17th, 2016 at 04:48 PM
Having Jedi trained from very early on was a choice by Lucas, who changed his mind between the two trilogies. If someone doesn't stand a chance to amount to anything in Jedi training if you don't start at a very early age, why does OB1 send Luke to Yoda.
And Yoda says: "only a fully trained Jedi Knight, with the Force as his ally, will conquer Vader. And the Emperor." Yet, Luke defeats Vader. So in OT terms it is possible to be great as a Jedi without all that silly remote fighting as kids with Millennium Falcon helmets.
Now, the PT is often used to show where the OT doesn't make sense. Using the PT elements as proof. But the OT predates the PT. And the fact that stuff got changed after the fact kinda made the OT weird.
It's like the lightsaber fights. Many martial arts sword fighters consider the PT fights as utterly ridiculous. In fact, the ANH fight probably the most realistic based on the nature of the weapon. Twirling and swirling makes one vulnerable and with a weapons that doesn't take much force to chop off your leg, that is plain dumb. It doesn't make sense to fight that way.
Just as it doesn't make sense to abduct kids from their parents and commit them to a life without passion and sex.