Dbz characters have ridiculous energy output. Veget's a hell of a warrior but unfortunately his physical stats are far far below superman's. He'd get beat to sleep fairly quickly.
The Manga is the original source material of the Series, as such, the filler events were not made by the Mangaka, as such, they were not made with much thought towards the actual storyline.
Plus it gets way too confusing if you include a characters filler feats
Hmmm...He has warmed up an entire planet with it. His heat vision has been calculated to be hotter than a star. I think his heat vision has deflected Darkseid's Omega Beams. I recall Superman oneshotting a Doomsday army with it. Hard to say whats his best HV feat.
The single best (Done by Buutenks) strength-related feat in Dragonball canon is physically knocking back a blast so hard it flew into Earth and out the other side. A roughly continental level strength feat. Not bad at all.
Thor and Superman have planetary strength feats.
No.
For Thor it depends on what day of the week it is and whether or not he is fighting Wolverine. Thor's speed varies wildly. But Superman, who has multiple FTL feats? lolno. Name Vegeta's speed feat which makes him faster than Superman.
But really, I am talking to the same, shall we say, "challenged person" who believed Roshi catching machine-gun bullets was a mach 1,000 feat.
Being smashed between two planets, surviving equivelant power of 52 supernovas, been in between two black holes...
Everything isn't based off of lifting fts...once you learn this the better off you would be.
Flying through space doesn't equal combat speed. Goku combat speed is far greater imo. This was proven when King Ki was able to track Goku ship through space when he was flying to planet Namek. Goku ship flew from one solar system to another in 6 days, far faster than light and King Ki was able to track it and easily. This same Ki used the same technique he used to track Goku ship during the Frieza and Goku fight but they was moving so fast that he was unable to keep up with them. This isn't the only instance proving Goku is faster than light. Goku outpacing solar energy and there are other instances as well.
What planetary strength fts does Thor and Supes have?
WTF? Thor would get blitzed like hell from any DBZ fighter and you overhyping him doesn't change this. Even the most hardcore Thor fans doesn't believe Thor can counter a blitz from Goku.
Lol...Goku and Frieza were near equals during their fight in all categories and Frieza withstood the Kamehameha times 20. Let's not forget what the kameha times 1 was capable of...it had enough force to destroy earth...do the math. This doesn't even change the fact that Roshi had enough power to shed a moon but Roshi best attack wouldn't even register to someone like Nappa or Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga had enough power to shed Earth but his energy output wouldn't even tickle a Super Saiyan let alone the black hair Goku that fought Frieza. Average showings, Goku is FAR more powerful, faster, more durable, and stronger than Superman...you throwing off high fts isn't aiding or changing this.
You should know the instance where Babidi said Goku had this type of energy output.
Roshi's Moon feat is an outliner, and Goku has never shown his base Wave to destroy the Earth pre-freeza saga. He needed 3x to match Vegeta's blast which, by the manga, isnt a planet /buster/. That and Vegeta couldn't survive if the planet was destroyed. The first Planet Busting came from Freeza's chain reaction. So its only post-Freeza saga that characters become planetary.
And its SS1 Goku that has 3,000 kiri [200-300 kiri can destroy a planet], which means he's below the force needed to down Superman's supernova feat.
The min force needed to destroy the Earth x50 = Neptune
Neptune x200 = Jupiter
x1,000 = min Stella level
x60 = our Sun
x250 = a Supernova
x52 = Superman's durability.
The greatest feat in all of DB is Buu's feat which someone claced to Jupiter-Jupiterx50 in destruction. Far from the smallest star, further from our Sun and not even close to the force of a supernova. Let alone 52 of them.
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What are you talking about? It was stated on panel that Vegeta blast during the Saiyan Saga had enough power to shed Earth. Goku Kamehameha countered this blast.
I'm not even going to argue against the planetary strength comment because its a lie.
So now you are taking Roshi moon busting ft away from him. Ok, Piccolo destroyed a moon but his blast during that time wouldn't even tickle Frieza.
I know Vegeta wouldn't survive if the planet was destroyed due to lack of air. If the planet buster came from Saiyan Saga Goku, Vegeta would tank it with ease which is my point.
Lol...the only reason, ONLY reason Frieza was unable to destroy Namek with a single blast was because the spirit bomb depleted him of his power...he even states this after reappearing. Frieza was weakened. What we do know is that Frieza took out planet Vegeta at .025% of his power with his index finger and Planet Vegeta was twice the size of Earth. Just like it was stated on panel by true power level readers, Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga was dishing out enough energy to destroy Earth and Goku stopped it with a Kamehameha times 3 blast. Frieza TANKED the kamehameha times 20 without a scratch.
Lol at you deciding a fight off of high showings. If you truly believe that it takes a Supernova to stop Superman then you are smoking some hard stuff. I have seen him dropped by much less. Average portrayals of these characters, Goku stomps, high end ft portrayals of these characters, Hulk could kill Galactus with a single punch. Learn the difference please.
The greatest ft in DBZ is knowing they can shed a solar system with a mere blast, the lowest ft is ignoring this.
Love smallville...nice ft. Do you know where I can download the episodes?
The flight wad stated as being a couple of thousand light years away and by the way, this was Goku at his weakest.
I know of Supermans fts, I want to see if they know. I don't like debating against people that knows nothing of the characters they are debating for. Thanks for messing that up.
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