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Ridley_Prime
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Ssh, we gotta act like all GoDs/Hakaishins are created equal for some reason.


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And have the power of the Gods.


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Toppo and Jiren are Hakaishin level. Don't know where this came from.
There is literally NO proof that Toppo is on par with a bonafide Hakaishin. Your character-wank =/= proof.

As for FP Jiren: I have acknowledged that he is likely around Beerus-level(mainly because the entire point/hype of MUI is that it has enabled Goku to 'surpass the Gods', and it wasn't until he attained MUI that he was able to do so.) There is NO proof Jiren has exceeded that level yet, though(again, your character-wank =/= proof.)


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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Ssh, we gotta act like all GoDs/Hakaishins are created equal for some reason.
ikr?

Why are some people so stuck on the notion that just because all of them are called 'Hakaishin', doesn't mean they all possess identical power by default. The fuggin manga scene I posted blatantly depicts the fact that they are NOT all equal, ffs. laughing out loud

Same goes for MUI: just because Goku has attained it certainly doesn't mean he can now match Whis, anymore than Whis can match Daishinkan.


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"The Grand Admiral was smart and subtle, but never used his brilliance to show up or humiliate anyone.
He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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How much more powerful us Daishinkan then Whis? On the origional 1-20 scale.


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ikr?

Why are some people so stuck on the notion that just because all of them are called 'Hakaishin', doesn't mean they all possess identical power by default. The fuggin manga scene I posted blatantly depicts the fact that they are NOT all equal, ffs. laughing out loud

Same goes for MUI: just because Goku has attained it certainly doesn't mean he can now match Whis, anymore than Whis can match Daishinkan.


While in the Anime, they were shown as equals.


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Good thing there is a canon manga which confirms they *aren't* all equal. smile


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He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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Originally posted by Blindside12
How much more powerful us Daishinkan then Whis? On the origional 1-20 scale.
According to Whis, he wouldn't even be able to lay a hand on Daishinkan in a fight... HUGE difference between them.


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"The Grand Admiral was smart and subtle, but never used his brilliance to show up or humiliate anyone.
He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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Good thing there is a canon manga which confirms they *aren't* all equal. smile

And even in the anime, which is troll Carver’s only canon, Beerus was implied more powerful than like Champa pretty early on. The difference in ability between Hakaishins is obvious. It’s just seeing what he wants to see, as per the usual.


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He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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The more I think about it, the more inclined I am to put MUI Goku at 11 or 12 right now. That would still put him comfortably above Beerus, but still far below the likes of Whis. Granted, I agree MUI Goku > Beerus, but I am certainly not of the opinion that he can KO Beerus with one casual chop, like Whis can. So imo, the gap between Whis and Goku is still MUCH larger than the gap between Goku and Beerus.

On that note, I'd put Jiren at 10 or 10.5, as I believe he is no less than equal to Beerus(and arguably a bit stronger.)


...Of course, anything could happen in the final few episodes. I'm just talking about what we know right now.


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"The Grand Admiral was smart and subtle, but never used his brilliance to show up or humiliate anyone.
He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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I think Beerus could work Jiren good and edge him out, hes a beast.


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Until Jiren goes full power on him....


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Jiren is around 13-14 I guess....


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Per herms, in this source Beerus states Ultra Instinct Goku "might be stronger than him"(this is likely a line from the next episode, indicating that he is referring to MUI Goku):
https://i.imgur.com/8V6Fgt4.jpg


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He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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But I thought Beerus >> MUI Goku?


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*Le Gasp*


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He demanded results, but never perfection, and had amazing stores of patience for those who were truly working to their fullest ability.
It was a pity Thrawn's style of leadership hadn't spread through the rest of the navy.
If that happened, he suspected, the Empire would stand forever."

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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But I thought Beerus >> MUI Goku?


laughing out loud


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But I thought Beerus >> MUI Goku?


I know you were saying that, but some others were saying Beerus > MUI Goku wink

Beerus > MUI Goku... this is how it will remain when DBS ends.

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