Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
What? Luke doesn't stand a chance against this duo.
He does stand a chance. He is more powerful than either one of them, individually. But while he is attacking one, the other will assault him. He can't overcome them together, but he'll give them both a good fight.
Originally posted by Escape81
He does stand a [B]chance. He is more powerful than either one of them, individually. But while he is attacking one, the other will assault him. He can't overcome them together, but he'll give them both a good fight. [/B]
I doubt that Luke in DE already surpassed Yoda - or Sidious. He's clearly not able to beat Sidious on equal ground during their first lightsaber duel and even force wise he's below Sidious.
I think Yoda in his prime, considering his speed and strength in the force might be able to pull this off on his own. Adding Revan is almost overkill - at least it's a guaranteed victory for Revan and Yoda. Luke wouldn't get WTFpwned but I don't see him having a real chance here.
Originally posted by Borbarad
I doubt that Luke in DE already surpassed Yoda - or Sidious. He's clearly not able to beat Sidious on equal ground during their first lightsaber duel and even force wise he's below Sidious.I think Yoda in his prime, considering his speed and strength in the force might be able to pull this off on his own. Adding Revan is almost overkill - at least it's a guaranteed victory for Revan and Yoda. Luke wouldn't get WTFpwned but I don't see him having a real chance here.
And a lot of other things that I'm too lazy to type down.
This could go in favor of either side.
Originally posted by Spartan ll
DE Luke's feats (Limited to what he did in DE alone):
1.Was able to guide a crashing Star Destoryer down in one piece, using the Force.
That would help him in a fight how exactly ?
2.Destoryed HK Droids with a flick of his wrist.
Yoda on his own tooled an army of battle droids.
3.Destoryed an AT-AT by deflecting it's blasts with only a lightsaber then using the Force to destory it.
Yoda did take down a hailfire droid without using his lightsaber and brought the top of a mountain down. Just before lifting the remains of the temple on Ilum up. I guess that surpasses DE Luke's force TK by far.
4.Defeated(Yes, BY HIMSELF! I don't believe in the UNSUPPORTED assumption that Leia was helping him.And since she WAS the only Lightside thing on the ship, it's reasonable to deduct that the aura surronding her was the Lightside itself.) a younger,more powerful Sidious, when even Yoda couldn't defeat DE Sidious' inferior form,thus proving DE Luke>Yoda.
It's stated that Leia used some Battle Meditation and helped Luke to defeat Sidious. It's pretty obvious that Luke wasn't able to do that on his own as he pretty much went down hard against the freshly "newborn" Sidious just weeks before their second duel. I doubt that Luke did improve that much in that short amount of time.
5.Defeated an entire army of Darkside elites(One of the Empire's BEST units.) without almost no effort.
Yeah. And Yoda took down "legions" of Dark Jedi on Bfassh. So what ?
This could go in favor of either side.
As I already said (see above): Yoda might be able to do that on his own. With Revan added the duo will simply win this. Not easy, not fast but still...
Originally posted by Borbarad
That would help him in a fight how exactly ?Yoda on his own tooled an army of battle droids.
Yoda did take down a hailfire droid without using his lightsaber and brought the top of a mountain down. Just before lifting the remains of the temple on Ilum up. I guess that surpasses DE Luke's force TK by far.
It's stated that Leia used some Battle Meditation and helped Luke to defeat Sidious. It's pretty obvious that Luke wasn't able to do that on his own as he pretty much went down hard against the freshly "newborn" Sidious just weeks before their second duel. I doubt that Luke did improve that much in that short amount of time.
Yeah. And Yoda took down "legions" of Dark Jedi on Bfassh. So what ?
As I already said (see above): Yoda might be able to do that on his own. With Revan added the duo will simply win this. Not easy, not fast but still...
2.Whup dee doo, he destroyed a Hailfire droid. Luke took down an AT-AT. AT-AT>Hailfire droid. And where did he bring the top of a mountain down? If it's Clone Wars, then thats bad proof. CW is HEAVILY overpowered, if Jedi were able to deflect hundreds of blaster bolts, jump to the peak of mountains and destory droids with their bare hands, then the Battle of Geonosis wouldve been a piece of cake. And Luke also destoryed an army of battle droids, with only the flick of his wrist, and these battle droids were more deadly than the puny ones Yoda took down.DE Luke>Yoda
3.Yeah, BS. Where is this stated? It sure as hell isn't mentioned in any book I know. And last time I checked, we haven't even heard of Leia even KNOWING anything about BM let alone actually using it. You're basing most of your 'facts' over unsupported assumptions. And how many days was it before Luke fought the Emperor again? Even so, Luke wasn't even prepared to fight the Clone Emperor when the Clone was decanted.
4.Where is this stated about 'legions', let alone it ever happening? I heard Yoda killed a Dark Jedi on Dagobah, but thats about it. Either way, Dark Jedi aren't anything like Sith trained assassins(Palpatine's BEST Sith trained assassins, may I add.), don't compare apples and oranges. Dark Jedi are siginifcantly weaker because they know nothing about Sith techniques, where a Sith trained assassin could comfortably beat an average Dark Jedi.
And I don't care what it looks like, Luke beat the Clone Emperor. It is never stated nor proven that Leia is using BM, it doesn't even state that she knows it for Christ's sake! You are basing that off of an unsupported assumption.
And last time I checked, the Clone Emperor was a hell of a lot more powerful than either ROTJ or ROTS Sidious. ANd Yoda couldn't even beat the inferior Sidious(ROTS), he wouldn't stand a chance against ROTJ Sidious, and would get tooled by DE Sidious. Hell, even the DE Sourcebook states that Luke and Sidious were moving faster than the eye could see and were tearing Sidious throne room to shreds in the process. When Yoda can go that fast, let me know.
Originally posted by Darth SexyAnd you've shown extreme stupidity on many levels before. Seriously, either debate or shut the f*ck up, n00b. Everyone knows you're biased towards Ancient Sith , so knowing you, you'd probably say Revan alone could take Luke(Which complete and utter BS). And Ive actually got points in my post. I remember there being a ROTS Sidious Vs DE Luke, and everyone saying DE would beat him, yet people don't think he could beat Yoda, who was beaten by Sidious. .
You've shown so many faults on so many different levels in 1 post.
And Anomally, I'm not so sure about that. If Luke destroys Revan quickly(Which will most likely happen, since Revan is way below Luke in terms of Force and Saber.), Luke will have a long fight with Yoda but end up beating Yoda in the end.
Originally posted by AdventLast time I checked, Revan wasn't exactly around or alive in the DE or Prequels timeline, he was around four thousand years prior to those events, doesn't get anymore Ancient than there. Therefore I classify him with all the other Sith of that time, the Ancient Sith.
Um? What do the Ancient Sith have to do with Revan?