for the last time, you can ***** and moan and cry in the post, but at the very end you have NOT proved anything. Just because you say you've countered or proved them doesn't mean anything. And you're still talking about the point I'm supposed to refute? You mean that Mace is faster than Sidous? Because I ever said that? You've wasted pages asking me to prove something I've never stated to begin with. And for the millionth time, Sidious beating 3 JEdi doesn't automatically make him better than Mace. I have given logical points as to why Mace didn't finish Sidious, just because you refuse to listen to them doesn't mean I'm stubborn or missing your points or waa waa...