Revan vs DE sidious

Kreia doesn't know what the f*ck she's talking about, she wasn't there to witness these leet skills. She is reciting hearsay, exaggerated legends and passing them off as fact.

"No one ever stated revan was the best ever fool, Dont have to lie, dorak and vrook were referring to STUDENTS THE ACADEMY HAD TRAINED
The key point is, the academy never met kun on dantooine and thus are unable to judge weather revan > kun or kun > revan moron"

You are the ****ing moron here. They stated that revan had more force power then "EVERY SINGLE STUDENT THEY HAD EVER SEEN!!! NOT THEY HAD EVER TRAIN!!!!

"And who ever stated this quote? This quote is a hyperbole. Its the same thing when characters stated exar kun caused the earth to tremble beneth his feet
Right now you a babbling bull shit, i dont even know what the f*ck are you saying."

You are the one who knows nothing. Canderous stated that 3 TIMES during all the game!!! Also, who is this an ****ing hyperbole? Do you know what is one at least? Tell me, why is this an hyperbole? Why Revan isn't "the greater warrior the republic had ever seen"? Also, i laugh at you when you are saying that Canderous uses hyperboles, the same Canderous who laugh from Bastilla or Carth as if they were meaningless soldiers. Also, is the same to say that vrook is making an compliment without revan deserve it, they just don't do it! If people like Canderous or Vrook, EXTREMELY critical, make such compliments, then they are the reality, not exagerations!

"First you claim that the masters stated revan was the best student the academy had seen. Moron i will say this loud and clear. The acadmy was refering to STUDENTS THEY HAD TRAINED
And did the academy TRAIN exar kun? THEY DID NOT and thus are UNABLE TO GUAGE HIS POTENTIAL AND POWER"

The masters stated that Revan was the best student THEY (NOT THAT ACADEMY) had ever met! Stop DISTORTING the statements!

"how bout this, Kreia stated that revan would lose to an ancient sith lord in combat, she clearly stated that in K2. she stated the great masters of our ERA (kotor) would be like children playing with toys compared to the ancient sith, and didnt Kevin J anderson
stated exar kun > ragnos when ragnos the ancient sith > revan according to kreia?"

I see, you ignore PURE statements yet you MAKE some of your OWN? Kreia never stated ancient sith>revan, he stated that actual jedi were child close to tulak but Revan was not even around and she is talking about the normal jedi from that time. Also, she never saw tulak didn't she? In fact, i tell you to go eat shit if you bring such an argument from kreia who never met tulak horde yet ignore statements from vrook or canderous who fought in the Great Sith War or statements from ADJUNTA PALL HIMSELF directly to REVAN. It's completely nonsense and shows how good you are in logic.

Lets get one thing straight. Revan was the best of the KOTOR era. If KOTOR didn't prove that, POD did.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Lets get one thing straight. Revan was the best of the KOTOR era. If KOTOR didn't prove that, POD did.

There's pretty much no arguing this. If someone disputes that Revan was the best of his era then that person is either a) ignorant or b) a dumb@ss.

Darth Nihilus is arguably more powerful, but I suppose it depends how you define the KotOR era.

Nihilus is a conundrum. I wouldn't say that he's "more powerful" overall than Revan; but his Force drain would give him an obvious advantage. He's just far more proficient in what seems to be a single Force skill. Otherwise, Revan is likely stronger than him.

That's just my two cents.

He's pretty powerful without it. He was able to dominate the minds of his entire crew, and through pure willpower alone, hold his entire ship together.

Originally posted by Sexyback
He's pretty powerful without it. He was able to dominate the minds of his entire crew, and through pure willpower alone, hold his entire ship together.

Touche.

I never really understood Nihilus's position in the Triumvirate. Pawn? Or was he - really - the most feared of them? He's shown feats greater than Sion or Traya.

Nihilus was Sion's master, actually.

Traya and Sion seem to have a special bond, Nihilus was somewhat of an outsider in the group, but I'm guessing he was the most powerful.

Nihilus' mind control over force sensitives doesn't seem to be a skill, but a natural ability. It just happens. That just adds to the mystery of him, but overall Revan is superior.

1) learn to quote
2) quit making baseless claims sickchild
3)stop contradicting yourself
4)learn to debate child

Originally posted by kamhal
You are the ****ing moron here. They stated that revan had more force power then "EVERY SINGLE STUDENT THEY HAD EVER [B]SEEN!!! NOT THEY HAD EVER TRAIN!!!!
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Originally posted by kamhal

You are the one who knows nothing. Canderous stated that 3 TIMES during all the game!!! Also, who is this an ****ing hyperbole? Do you know what is one at least? Tell me, why is this an hyperbole? Why Revan isn't "the greater warrior the republic had ever seen"?

Originally posted by kamhal

Also, i laugh at you when you are saying that Canderous uses hyperboles, the same Canderous who laugh from Bastilla or Carth as if they were meaningless soldiers. Also, is the same to say that vrook is making an compliment without revan deserve it, they just don't do it! If people like Canderous or Vrook, EXTREMELY critical, make such compliments, then they are the reality, not exagerations!

Originally posted by kamhal

The masters stated that Revan was the best student [B]THEY (NOT THAT ACADEMY) had ever met! Stop DISTORTING the statements!
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Originally posted by kamhal

I see, you ignore PURE statements yet you MAKE some of your OWN? Kreia never stated ancient sith>revan, he stated that actual jedi were child close to tulak but Revan was not even around and she is talking about the normal jedi from that time.

Originally posted by kamhal

Also, she never saw tulak didn't she? In fact, i tell you to go eat shit if you bring such an argument from kreia who never met tulak horde yet ignore statements from vrook or canderous who fought in the Great Sith War or statements from ADJUNTA PALL HIMSELF directly to REVAN. It's completely nonsense and shows how good you are in logic.

last but not least, vrook was referring to students in the kotor era.
He didnt even train anybody during GSW fool

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Lets get one thing straight. Revan was the best of the KOTOR era. If KOTOR didn't prove that, POD did.

See this n00b kamhal? It was referring to the kotor era, get it in your head numbskull

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kreia never said such a thing. She was refering to Tulak's fighting abilities. But Revan got hold of secrets of Tulak and studied them. And she admits that Tulak's secrets were gone.

I Agree to a certein point but this i dont, It was said to be unknown what happened to the holocron, its highly likely revan as a jedi wouldnt keep a dark side artifact and kreia only stated a possibility that revan could have kept it,

so far we dont know what happened to the holocron

has anyone put any of raven's power feets down, i dont remeber reading that many, but nihilus would most likely own him. so would DE sidious in my humble opinion

Revan has force lightning storm
force wave
sith alchemy though he doesnt bother using it
Tk
and some others

Sidious knew almost everything in the dark side of the force

but revan is superior to nihilus

Even thought nihilus can beat him with his mega drain revan is stronger overall

Sorry for double posting

Kamhal is just a fanbrat severely overrating revan.

He doesnt even know that canderous was referring to revans military tactis and his hand to hand skills when he killed mandalore.

He doesnt even know vrook was referring to the era they are in which is kotor era and NOT the GSW era

He doesnt know kun was a nobody as a student and never met any other jedi masters.

And lastly he doesnt even know of the creatures and the golden globe created by exar kun which drained the massassi and totally anihillated the entire race to extinction. The jedi masters DID NOT KNOW about the golden globe or any of kuns creations, hell they didnt even know he had an amulet on his hand.

God and kamhal learn to speak proper english because im sick of your giberrish and stop spouting shit,

Ok so the rodian has never met revan before right? Good because this backs up my point.

Has vrook ever met exar kun and actually seen the damage he had caused? No, did vrook meet exar kun? No, did the academy even train kun? No.

He was trained by vodo out of the academy, and he was a nobody as a jedi.

Dorak and vrook was refering to revan as a student, not the sith lord.

Kamhal i think its time you shut the hell up, you are getting very annoying reapeating the same shit everytime it gets refuted

how does TK, force drain, and any of that match up to raven, who makes mindless slaves of people and also kills whole planets just to servive, i mean this guys apprentice was immortal, darth sion or partner whatever he was, these two where bad mofo's i havent read anything that puts raven on par with nihilus or sion, or exer kun, or DE sidious, i dont see no moves of this guy that could destroy entire fleets like sidious, or move faster then the eye can see, i doubt this guy could even eat mace windu

who revan? Actually i wouldnt underestimate revan, she is quite badass and powerful.

I mean being able to wipe out a huge scouting party with lightning seems pretty painful

(sorry for the gender, revans a chick in my book)

Originally posted by Mider999
how does TK, force drain, and any of that match up to raven, who makes mindless slaves of people and also kills whole planets just to servive, i mean this guys apprentice was immortal, darth sion or partner whatever he was, these two where bad mofo's i havent read anything that puts raven on par with nihilus or sion, or exer kun, or DE sidious, i dont see no moves of this guy that could destroy entire fleets like sidious, or move faster then the eye can see, i doubt this guy could even eat mace windu

And same Kriea said this about Revan: "Revan was power. Staring in to his eyes was like staring in to the heart of the Force."

NOTE: Remember that Kriea has trained both Revan and Nihilus and she knows that who is more powerful.

Revan is much more martial and powerful over-all then Nihilus. Nihilus does not stands a chance against Revan without his impressive Drain power.

But Revan is a smart @ss. He would never face Nihilus by himself and instead would get him eliminated by other means.

Also, Revan's achievements are second to none but Sidious. Like Sidious! he was a master planner and a brilliant tactician and the single greatest warrior of his age.

Check following Links for more information:

Link 1: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Revan

Link 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revan

Link 3: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalorian_War

And since when was Darth Sion an apprentice of Nihilus? Nihilus's only known apprentice was Visas Marr.

Both Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus were apprentices of Darth Traya actually.

Revan's achievements are second only to Sidious? I'd say Bane is number two for achievements, though the KotoR fanboys and the dumbass who wrote PoD would try to disagree.