Superman vs. Darkseid

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl42 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
nver u make shi- up. and ur the biggest joke alive. no one agrees with u and even if the do like u u say such stupid things they jump and in and say dude u have no clue what u are talking about. ur truly a weak debater.

LOL. I make shit up. Say something that I made up. Please enlighten us all. Who has said I have no clue in what I'm talking about? the only time I get into arguments with people is over speculation.

Originally posted by Desaad
I prefer to debate by a reasoned, common sensical approached.

Not whichever way makes my favorite look better.

We debate by forum rules. Which say that Wonder Woman, My favorite Character, would get her ass kicked by The silver surfer. Of course I could argue that she would win. But then that wouldn't be forum rules would it? By the way, thanos is a much cooler character than Darksied has been shown to be.

Originally posted by quanchi112
again u put words in my mouth. idiots like u and asume i think something i never said. why if darkseid is this powerful does he want female furies or need other beings to hold sway if hes that mighty as u say,why?
That's just plain stupid. Going by your logic "Darkseid's has minions, Thanos doesn't, he's cooler, Darkseid's not". Darkseid having minions means he has more resources than Thanos. He gets others to work for him, because he's far above that type of work. A villain having minions doing his or her dirty work is a common trait for many fictional characters. Seriously, if Thanos had a big ass planet at his command, do you honestly think he would do all of his workk for himself?

I'm still waiting quanchi for you to post something that i made up. please enlighten us.

No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

nuff said

that thanos with the heart didnt happen in marvel 616 u jackass, when it was mentioned that it was in thanos series. ur comeback is well thanos must know what he does in exact what if copy of 616. u even confuse urself u jackass in ur crazy worded answrs. u discount canon referecnes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
that thanos with the heart didnt happen in marvel 616 u jackass, when it was mentioned that it was in thanos series. ur comeback is well thanos must know what he does in exact what if copy of 616. u even confuse urself u jackass in ur crazy worded answrs. u discount canon referecnes.

LOL. you idiot. the writer of the story said that the book was written to be a copy of the 616. and it's a big what if the end actually happened. then as guy said, it was later stated that it was not in continuity. Please elaborate on more things I made up. this is fun.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL. you idiot. the writer of the story said that the book was written to be a copy of the 616. and it's a big what if the end actually happened. then as guy said, it was later stated that it was not in continuity. Please elaborate on more things I made up. this is fun.
ok so it was a what if that what changed into canaon then. the wirter of hunter and prey im sure wanted and inteneded for darkseid to lose to doomsday. why would superman save an avatr. but it was retconned by another writer u jackass. that happens jackass

Originally posted by quanchi112
ok so it was a what if that what changed into canaon then. the wirter of hunter and prey im sure wanted and inteneded for darkseid to lose to doomsday. why would superman save an avatr. but it was retconned by another writer u jackass. that happens jackass
No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

nuff said

Originally posted by quanchi112
ok so it was a what if that what changed into canaon then. the wirter of hunter and prey im sure wanted and inteneded for darkseid to lose to doomsday. why would superman save an avatr. but it was retconned by another writer u jackass. that happens jackass

actually there is a big confusion over the mess becuz the writer of the story had one intention, someone else had another. it's not officially a cannon book. please learn something.

Originally posted by Desaad
As for myself, I argue on an average basis. Discounting all of a characters low showings and taking only the good one seems a pretty...well, narrow minded thing to do.

Low showings aren't discounted. Only PIS showings. And on this forum, you cannot argue for PIS. Of course, the debate is, what constitutes PIS? 😉 There's the challenge in arguing. For a definition of PIS, read one of the above posts.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
actually there is a big confusion over the mess becuz the writer of the story had one intention, someone else had another. it's not officially a cannon book. please learn something.
if its referecned in thanos series how is it noncanon. that is the only conclsuion one can come to. nuff said.

Originally posted by Desaad
Superman has fought Doomsday a number of times. Why hasn't he adapted to that?

Doomsday most likely wasn't killed by Darkseid. We've never seen him ressurect that fast from a death, a true death.

What that means is that, in that showing, Darkseid's Omegas delivered less power than did Superman's punches, or the Radiant's energies.

I'm going to remember that you said this, Astro. 😂

'NVR clearly know nothing of the New Godss that he hasn't stolen from the biggest rabid New Gods fanboy on the net, Jimmy-San aka Jimmy-Sama. He's clearly Jimmmy's protege, and Jimmy's a priah and jinternet wide joke due to his rabid delusional pro Darkseid/new Gods views.

And Superman/Darksied goes to Superman 6/10 so long as he's in the right mindset to be able to access his own full , normally held back power.

Originally posted by panthergod
I'm going to remember that you said this, Astro. 😂
However, Darkseid was also confirming his death on the panel. Without grabbing the comic he said something about"The universe will know you died here" to Darkseid.
Then when he popped up again. "So, you are beyond death."
I believe also in a previously posted article a long time ago, the writer also mentioned DOomsday dying in that scene.

Originally posted by panthergod
'NVR clearly know nothing of the New Godss that he hasn't stolen from the biggest rabid New Gods fanboy on the net, Jimmy-San aka Jimmy-Sama. He's clearly Jimmmy's protege, and Jimmy's a priah and jinternet wide joke due to his rabid delusional pro Darkseid/new Gods views.

And Superman/Darksied goes to Superman 6/10 so long as he's in the right mindset to be able to access his own full , normally held back power.

Ok since Superman has beaten Darkseid 3 times, and Darkseid has beaten him 8 times, then Supes is more powerful. Cause you know 8<3.

Originally posted by Juntai
However, Darkseid was also confirming his death on the panel. Without grabbing the comic he said something about"The universe will know you died here" to Darkseid.
Then when he popped up again. "So, you are beyond death."
I believe also in a previously posted article a long time ago, the writer also mentioned DOomsday dying in that scene.

I have said this many times. That DS killed Doomsday first. People are just too silly to read the damned panels.

Darkseid said he killed DD.

DD gets up, and Darkseid says you are beyond death, ie can't be killed.

It can be interpreted either way, but i get the conclusion that he dropped DD, but didn't kill him.

Sucks to be Uxas.

Originally posted by starking
Ok since Superman has beaten Darkseid 3 times, and Darkseid has beaten him 8 times, then Supes is more powerful. Cause you know 8<3.

1) a lie, Darkseid has never beaten Superman 8 times, ever. This is more delusional Jimmy-esque fanboyism.

2)Superman got more powerful before he beat Darkseid, as Darkseid himself explicitlty stated. So any losses of a less powerful Superman are currently irrelvant.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Darkseid said he killed DD.

DD gets up, and Darkseid says you are beyond death, ie can't be killed.

It can be interpreted either way, but i get the conclusion that he dropped DD, but didn't kill him.

Sucks to be Uxas.

DS showed his superiority over DD. Then got surpised for being arrogant. DD cost a guardian his life. So it's no surpise DD would adapt to the omegas. Also, DD as we know, can die, and he has. What DS meant was that it's true that Doomsday can't die permanantly as DS knows that DD was killed before. It just takes logic to figure it out. Also given the fact that DS was the one who powered up Doomsday. Remember that Doomsday gets more powerful as to adapt against what is beating him. DS gave Doomsday the power he needed to pwn him. Period.