How did this thread get to 25 pages? Storm channels the energies he controls through her body all the time and it doesn't hurt her. She can also exercise control over those same energies and she can wield power in far greater quantities. Magneto can't even turn off the lights while Storm can summon the full power of celestial bodies and alter the ecosystem on a global scale off the merits of her own power base. This is a silly, silly fight. Storm 10/10.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Speaking of playing with semantics, here is my favorite:"Storm only summoned the full power of the core, she did not summon the totality of its power." LOL!
That said, these people want to shout that Magneto can change the magnetic poles on the merits of his own power when all canon dictates that he must have a machine or a drug to enhance his powers to come anywhere near this feat. They want to scream that he can create wormholes, right? Fine, he can do that, but when have we seen it on panel? For all I know, he probably needed a machine for that too or it may have taken him hours to create one. In other words, while he's trying to cobble up a machine to do it or he fights or probably straining like he had to do to pull atoms together to make that comb for Wasp to create that wormhole in a fight(I wonder if he soiled himself pulling that stunt? He was certainly sweating and all of that. Wasp's facial expression may be come from the smell he generated from soiled underwear...I'm hoping he wears at least that...), Storm clocks him with winds like she did against Sienna Blaze and tears him to ribbons.
I kno right😊
They reach like Reed Richard's, going all out to slight Ororo.
I think some just like the comic hierarchy too much the way it is now.
Originally posted by inimalist
Really, I stopped debating with you threads ago for the simple reason that you do not accept the standard of evidence for these boards. And instead of adressing that issue, you just carry on with the same old scans. The reason you and rutog have become the joke of the month is this one alone. The day, [b]THE DAY, capt it up started making logical arguments for wolverine, both him and wolverine's status on the board skyrocketed. Nobody respects Storm anymore because of the preposterous claims you are making for her. [/B]
What do you mean I don't accept the standard of evidence for these boards? Please, its the pot calling the kettle black. The reason we keep showing the same old scans is because people don't want to accept what the character does in them. The board members who participate in these "Storm" debates have a certain level where the place the character. Any evidence offered to the contrary is disregarded or overanalyzed and distorted to try and lessen what she does. I see this, then on the other hand, I look at a character like Magneto. He gets credit for power levels that he has never even approached in canon. It is beyond ridiculous.
Now, can you tell me what ridiculous claims have I made for Storm? Tell me this honestly and make the claim that there is no canon to back it up.
Originally posted by 2damnloudI think some just like the comic hierarchy too much the way it is now.
This is exactly the problem. These posters have a hierarchy in mind for these characters and no matter what is presented to them, they will not allow THEIR hierarchy be unbalanced.
If an issue came out next week where Storm taps into power that we have never seen before and beats the Living Tribunal, posters here will still try and argue Magneto>Storm. Heck, she's summoned the full power of millions of stars. Her powers are near-infinite and potentially limitless and still they want to make those stupid claims with Magneto. I'm just sitting here wondering exactly what has MAgneto done that is so impressive? I can't think of a single display of power of his that is really out there and hangs the moon and all. This is beyond pathetic.
If you will notice, when I ask for stunts from Magneto, people don't post them. You know why? Because our scans of STorm beats anything he's done. This is why they try so hard to distort the text. They don't have a case otherwise. Storm tosses what she did at Sienna Blaze at Magneto and he's gone. Simple as that. He is nowhere near that kind of power. If people want to disagree with me, post scans and issue numbers along with what he did without a machine to boost his powers that put him on that level.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Speaking of playing with semantics, here is my favorite:"Storm only summoned the full power of the core, she did not summon the totality of its power." LOL!
I'm a little afraid it's me you're quoting. I vaguely remember talking about her summoning a portion of the core and it wouldn't be beyond me to be reading what one of you guys were saying or thinking ahead and make that kind of silly typo. But it couldn't be me because I would of had more text making it clear it was a typo.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Please don't keep going as these things are silly. He created a wormhole. That's nice, but its a joke compared as Storm summoning the full power of a galactic core or her overpowering the Trion or sealing a reality tear between two dimensions.
Originally posted by Rutog98
This is exactly the problem. These posters have a hierarchy in mind for these characters and no matter what is presented to them, they will not allow THEIR hierarchy be unbalanced.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's a valid point. Why are the stars still there? They are giant stores of energy. They would contain more power than what is just out in space. Why didn't she absorb them?
Over-analyzation.
The scan said she summoned the full power of the Galactic core. PERIOD
Does the stars still being there really negate what canon said(which is evidence according to what is considered evidence on this board)??
First is was sematics of "full power." Now it's this, "why are the stars still there??"
I mean, c'mon 😆
Me attemping to answer that question would lead us down the road of conjecturization of which you can argue against directly since you can't directly argue against what was said in canon.
Do you now see how desperate it all looks?? 🙄
Originally posted by Rutog98
EC, you have really fallen low to resort to this kind of distortion to try and rob the character of her power. Torch knocked out the support for the entire building. In other words, Storm's winds were the only thing keeping that building up. Hence the, "Oh my God" reaction from Torch. He could not believe the power she was displaying. Then Storm with, "Behold the power of the wind, Johnny Storm, it has force to level mountains and to support one single building."The way you and Tuna go about trying to pervert the spirit of the canon truly has no boundaries.
Regardless of what you believe, the building didn't immediately collapse after Johnny smashed those walls. In the panel after that he's shown flying out of the cracking building. So for all purposes the row of walls he smashed wasn't the only thing that was holding the building up.
As for the Galactic Core feat I'd really like you to explain two things to me.
1.) If she channeled ALL the energy of the Galactic Core then how come the millions of stars still exist.
Remember Purple Dust Cloud = Nebula.
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2.) If she channeled ALL the energy of the Galactic Core then how does this make any sense?
By channeling all the energy she would have had an energy input of Millions of Stars but her output was only enough energy to light up as one star for the briefest of moments?.
So how come her energy output is much, much less then her energy input?
It'd be much appreciated if you could explain.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
It's a valid point. Why are the stars still there? They are giant stores of energy. They would contain more power than what is just out in space. Why didn't she absorb them?
Let me attempt to answer you "query" with continuity.🙄
I think since Storm doesn't run roughshod over the elements. She absorded the energy of the Core, filtering it through herself enough to kill the Brood, and then releasing it from herself much the same way she Did Shaman's Blizzard. Storm is like living flesh and blood archetype/vessel of Mother nature or something from my understanding. She would just return the energy to it's place after summoning it's full power.
This would further echo what CC may have alluded to in the interview about she and Phoenix doing different things in different ways, even in the long run/future of the character where Phoenix just would eat stars, and just eat them.
It has continuity for Storm to be a PF level character.
Now argue against my conjecture and my attempt to "fill in the blanks" instead of arguing canon directly🙄
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Let me attempt to answer you "query" with continuity.🙄I think since Storm doesn't run roughshod over the elements. She absorded the energy of the Core, filtering it through herself enough to kill the Brood, and then releasing it from herself much the same way she Did Shaman's Blizzard. Storm is like living flesh and blood archetype/vessel of Mother nature or something from my understanding. She would just return the energy to it's place after summoning it's full power.
This would further echo what CC may have alluded to in the interview about she and Phoenix doing different things in different ways, even in the long run/future of the character where Phoenix just would eat stars, and just eat them.
It has continuity for Storm to be a PF level character.
Now argue against my conjecture and my attemp to fill in the "blanks" insted of arguing canon directly🙄
Problem with your explanation being the fact that she only lit up for the briefest of moments when she channeled the energy. And she can only survive in space for a limited period of time.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
It has continuity for Storm TO BE a PF level character.Not neccesarily "is" a PF level character yet.
Better?? 😕
Well you need to explain the feat first. How come all the energy of millions of stars only equals enough energy to light up as one star for the briefest of moments?
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Problem with your explanation being the fact that she only lit up for the briefest of moments when she channeled the energy. And she can only survive in space for a limited period of time.
I don't see what this has to do with anything. She channeled the full power of the core to kill the embreyo. That only took a small fraction of time to do so. Afterwards, she returned the energy just as easily as she summoned it. Hence, that is why you still have stars. Either that or you could argue that those were stars in the nubula and not in the core with her. Regardless, she summoned the full power of the core as stated in plain english in the canon. Stop trying to say she did not do that.
If you read in Uncanny 166, the next issue, she was still alive after this stunt and just floating aimlessly in space in the last moments of her life until the Acanti found her.
