Storm vs Magneto pt 2

Started by Rutog9868 pages
Originally posted by 2damnloud
WOW.....JUST WOW😱

Tell me about it. I think I am going to back to Storm can control reality. I mean, if they are going to get this desperate, I have more to go on with her controlling reality than they do here. They are going against the very spirit of the text.

Okay, so Storm controls reality and on a whim wipes wills MAgneto out of existence. 😄 There ya go!

Originally posted by Rutog98
LOL! This is both ridiculous and desperate. The artist is supposed to draw the art to depict the text, not the other way around. Heck, in "Civil War" recently, Clor was a clone of Thor. He was not a robot or anything, yet in the final issue of Civil War, he was drawn like an android when Hercules bashed him up. Brevoort stated on a board that he was not a robot but a clone. Again, bad artwork.

Then it sounds like Clor just became Ror... Robor? Thorbot? It doesn't matter. Clor's now at least a cyborg. It's canon.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Then it sounds like Clor just became Ror... Robor? Thorbot? It doesn't matter. Clor's now at least a cyborg. It's canon.

Nope. Its bad artwork. Brevoort stated this, I believe, in a response to this very question about the nature of Clor's existence. It was stated in canon time and again that he was a clone. The hammer was mechanical as the cloners could not replicate Thor's energy powers.

You just get more and more desperate, don't ya. Well, I say Storm controls reality now and she wipes out Magneto.

Originally posted by Rutog98
You are not going to rob Storm of this. Even the official handbook put out by marvel stated that she channeled all of the steller energy.

"Channeling all of the surrounding stellar energy into herself"? That one? Wouldn't that just be the ambient stellar energy surrounding Storm. And all that ambient energy would add up to become a single star for the briefest of moments. Making the panel art valid as well? And technically it would still be the "power of the entire core" since the ambient energy would be come from all over the core.

It's still an impressive feat even just not as impressive as made out to be.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Nope. Its bad artwork. Brevoort stated this, I believe, in a response to this very question about the nature of Clor's existence. It was stated in canon time and again that he was a clone. The hammer was mechanical as the cloners could not replicate Thor's energy powers.

I've been reading mixed reports all over. Some stick with Pym's use of the word "clone", others say it was said he was built up with help from Pym's cybernetics. Some go with the full robot thing. If this happened in the most recent issue there'll be no telling how it'll be handled until the next issue.

You just get more and more desperate, don't ya. Well, I say Storm controls reality now and she wipes out Magneto.

You imply you think I'm struggling for any "opening" I can grasp at but this isn't the case from my point of view.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
"Channeling all of the surrounding stellar energy into herself"? That one? Wouldn't that just be the ambient stellar energy surrounding Storm. And all that ambient energy would add up to become a single star for the briefest of moments. Making the panel art valid as well? And technically it would still be the "power of the entire core" since the ambient energy would be come from all over the core.

It's still an impressive feat even just not as impressive as made out to be.

Nope, it would not mean that. It means exactly what it states. You and Tuna are really something else. Always adding words to the text or changing around the text to weaken the character. LOL!

She summoned the full power of the core.

That said, what is Magneto going to do against her reality warping? She if she just wills him out of existence or into the core of a star? He's not Storm. A star would kill him. LOL! Heck, what he is going to do if she turns him into a toaster? She can manipulate matter at the subatomic level. Its canon, you know. If she uses this on Magneto, he's gone.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Nope, it would not mean that. It means exactly what it states. You and Tuna are really something else. Always adding words to the text or changing around the text to weaken the character. LOL!

She summoned the full power of the core.


I guess I can't lead a horse to water OR make it drink.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Nope, it would not mean that. It means exactly what it states. You and Tuna are really something else. Always adding words to the text or changing around the text to weaken the character. LOL!

She summoned the full power of the core.

That said, what is Magneto going to do against her reality warping? She if she just wills him out of existence or into the core of a star? He's not Storm. A star would kill him. LOL! Heck, what he is going to do if she turns him into a toaster? She can manipulate matter at the subatomic level. Its canon, you know. If she uses this on Magneto, he's gone.

They are a mess. 😆

Originally posted by Rutog98
Nope, it would not mean that. It means exactly what it states. You and Tuna are really something else. Always adding words to the text or changing around the text to weaken the character. LOL!

She summoned the full power of the core.

That said, what is Magneto going to do against her reality warping? She if she just wills him out of existence or into the core of a star? He's not Storm. A star would kill him. LOL! Heck, what he is going to do if she turns him into a toaster? She can manipulate matter at the subatomic level. Its canon, you know. If she uses this on Magneto, he's gone.

Point being how is my explanation any less convoluted then yours or 2clouds? Mine at least supports the panel art.

Like I said, Magneto is a mere insect to storm, if THAT! I don't think he even registers to her😆

She simply changes the laws of Physics so there is no Magnetism, or she can just erase him out of reality.

She controls the ominiverse ya know.

The beyonder is her apprentice and aspires to one day be like her, but he knows in his heart he never will be.😖ad:

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Point being how is my explanation any less convoluted then yours or 2clouds? Mine at least supports the panel art.

Yours is foolish and straw-manny

The very term "ambient" is in direct contradition to the term "full", even in the context you are trying so deperately to use it in.

More semantics using a term that is not even present in the text😆

This is truely sad 🙁

😆

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Like I said, Magneto is a mere insect to storm, if THAT! I don't think he even registers to her😆

She simply changes the laws of Physics so there is no Magnetism, or she can just erase him out of reality.

She controls the ominiverse ya know.

The beyonder is her apprentice and aspires to one day be like her, but he knows in his heart he never will be.😖ad:


I know you're trying to be funny but that pretty much seems to sum up you guys' arguments.

And also, Stars remain in the background because she summoned the CORE, and not the Milky Way.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I know you're trying to be funny but that pretty much seems to sum up you guys' arguments.

Straw Man.

A complete misrepresentation of my stance.

I already told you how I think she would win, and it involved nothing of what I said in jest.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
And also, Stars remain in the background because she summoned the CORE, and not the Milky Way.

There's no difference in density of stars before, after, or during the feat.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
There's no difference in density of stars before, after, or during the feat.

huh??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
[B]Yours is foolish and straw-manny

The very term "ambient" is in driect contradition to the term "full", even in the context you are trying so deperately to use it in.

More semantics using a term that is not even present in the text😆

This is truely sad 🙁

It's less straw-manny then

1.) Storm putting all the energy back after she performed the feat

2.) Concentrating the energy of millions of suns into a single star that only lasted for the briefest of moments.

Heck she's never demonstrated that type of range before, even her global feats required a boost eg. Rachel and tech. The ambient stellar energy surrounding Storm is the only way the narrative and on panel art agree.

BTW I would actually read the scan before you start inserting words such as "FULL".

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.jpg

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Straw Man.

A complete misrepresentation of my stance.

I already told you how I think she would win, and it involved nothing of what I said in jest.


"I don't think he'll fling it fast enough" (probably not exact wording.)

Real solid.

You employ the same "straw man" techniques you acuse me of.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
huh??

Before absorbing, during absorbing, and after absorbing, there's no difference in the number of dots representing stars.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
It's less straw-manny then

1.) Storm putting all the energy back after she performed the feat

2.) Concentrating the energy of millions of suns into a single star that only lasted for the briefest of moments.

Heck she's never demonstrated that type of range before, even her global feats required a boost eg. Rachel and tech. The ambient stellar energy is the only way the narrative and on panel art agree.

BTW I would actually read the scan before you start inserting words such as "FULL".

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.jpg

Originally posted by 2damnloud

Now argue against my conjecture and my attempt to "fill in the blanks" instead of arguing canon directly🙄
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Damn, I must be psychic 🙄

😆

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
"I don't think he'll fling it fast enough" (probably not exact wording.)

Real solid.

You employ the same "straw man" techniques you acuse me of.

Nope, I said not with the force of thousands of pounds of falling debris.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
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Before absorbing, during absorbing, and after absorbing, there's no difference in the number of dots representing stars.

I'ts the Milky Way, not the core. The galactic core is at the center of our Galaxy, as well as every galaxy. Do some research please😊