Storm vs Magneto pt 2

Started by 2damnloud68 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Point.

Shoot.

Kill.

🙄

I said would because its a hypothetical situation, like most of the discussion going on here, I just want to be blunt about this potential thing you describe. You say that Storm is more powerful than Mags in potential, yet she is way easier to kill - you put the not blood rip cause there for a reason.

Power and outcome is one thing, yeah, Storm is devastating. She is likely to die against Punisher with a laser gun too.

No she wouldn't.

Magneto HIMSELF has admitted that Storm could kill him quite easily with her normal attacks.

Thats like... No argument at all. A laser blast can kill people, Storm is people, Punisher can shoot.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
No she wouldn't

He sneaks up behind her thanks to his skill. He fires a laser at her head. Her head explodes. She dies.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He sneaks up behind her thanks to his skill. He fires a laser at her head. Her head explodes. She dies.

That goes for Magneto too. He has been "tagged" before. 🙄

I LOVE using that one 😎

Also, Storm probably would'nt get snuck up on.

I'm not talking about Magneto at all, I'm saying there is no point in floating for Storm like she is a goddess when Punisher has a chance of taking her while in a straight fight even if not every time.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
That goes for Magneto too. He has been "tagged" before. 🙄

I LOVE using that one 😎

Also, Storm probably would'nt get snuck up on.

Magento has a passive shield that Storm lacks. And Punisher would be able to sneak up on Storm w/o much trouble.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Magento has a passive shield that Storm lacks. And Punisher would be able to sneak up on Storm w/o much trouble.

Nope. she is ituned with her enviroment.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He sneaks up behind her thanks to his skill. He fires a laser at her head. Her head explodes. She dies.

Seriously. It doesn't seem like it's even that hard to do. Black Panther did it. Granted, he's powerful stealthy when he's not crying about inefficient cars. Colossus even did it. By being hurled through the air by Magneto like a trashcan.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Seriously. It doesn't seem like it's even that hard to do. Black Panther did it. Granted, he's powerful stealthy when he's not crying about inefficient cars. Colossus even did it. By being hurled through the air by Magneto like a trashcan.

Everyone gets "snuck up on". It goes with getting 'tagged' 🙄

Same shit, different toilet.

I think Punisher has a good shot at this, no pun intended.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You provide nothing to the debate but logical fallacies and semantics.

It is YOU who admitted pages ago that you just can't see how Storm can do the things she does. When clearly explained to you, you twist it.

Plain English you twist by playing semantics.

You do ALL you can to minimize Storm's feats by uisng illogical forms of debating. For what, I don't know.

I've noticed most of Storm's detractors use illogical debating which shows you don't really have anything to go on but desperation.

Sad 😘

Ok, it's been shown plenty of times in the comics for both Magneto and Storm that they have done very impressive feats. So it's canon. Agree?

Ok...it's also been shown plenty of times in the comics for both Magneto and Storm that there are contradictions to their powersets, and both have been beaten in fights, tagged, not been aware of things. So it's canon. Agree?

The same inconsistency in power/ability applies to both characters. It is therefore illogical to say "Storm/Magneto can do this, but then this happened (A leads to B)". I think that is what you were getting at in your previous replies to me. Forgive me if i am slow in seeing your side of the argument, and correct me if this interpretation is still wrong. Also be aware that while i am trying to see your POV, i'm not necessarily agreeing with it.

If we are going to take your stance above, then how do we say who is stronger out of Magneto and Storm? After all, they are both capable of fantastic feats but equally are culpable in being beaten. I'm guessing, and only guessing, that you are then saying that because Storm's highest showings in the comics are more powerful than Magneto's, she will beat him. Is that right? Again, correct me if i'm wrong.

I still can't quite understand your arguments, and i'd like you to clear it up for me a little more. If you can avoid using terms such as "straw man, semantics and logical fallacy", i'd be all the more happy.

Originally posted by Bentley
I think Punisher has a good shot at this, no pun intended.

Not with storm. She is intuned with her enviroment.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Everyone gets "snuck up on". It goes with getting 'tagged' 🙄

Same shit, different toilet.


Not necessarily. You can get just get blitzkrieged in the face. It's not really sneak attack.

There are shades, layers, and exceptions to just about everything you know.

I don't say an sneak attack, even face to face Punisher can kill her.

Originally posted by yestinchong
Ok, it's been shown plenty of times in the comics for both Magneto and Storm that they have done very impressive feats. So it's canon. Agree?

Ok...it's also been shown plenty of times in the comics for both Magneto and Storm that there are contradictions to their powersets, and both have been beaten in fights, tagged, not been aware of things. So it's canon. Agree?

The same inconsistency in power/ability applies to both characters. It is therefore illogical to say "Storm/Magneto can do this, but then this happened (A leads to B)". I think that is what you were getting at in your previous replies to me. Forgive me if i am slow in seeing your side of the argument, and correct me if this interpretation is still wrong. Also be aware that while i am trying to see your POV, i'm not necessarily agreeing with it.

If we are going to take your stance above, then how do we say who is stronger out of Magneto and Storm? After all, they are both capable of fantastic feats but equally are culpable in being beaten. I'm guessing, and only guessing, that you are then saying that because Storm's highest showings in the comics are more powerful than Magneto's, she will beat him. Is that right? Again, correct me if i'm wrong.

I still can't quite understand your arguments, and i'd like you to clear it up for me a little more. If you can avoid using terms such as "straw man, semantics and logical fallacy", i'd be all the more happy.

Yea, that's what I'm saying.😊

And I will continue to use those terms if people keep doing it.

Originally posted by Bentley
I don't say an sneak attack, even face to face Punisher can kill her.

Nope, he can't😊

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yea, that's what I'm saying.😊

And I will continue to use those terms if people keep doing it.

So, now that i understand your POV a little more clearly, i'm gonna ask you another question if you don't mind.

Let's forget the Magneto/Storm fight for a moment. How do you explain how either she or him get hit without being aware? Can you come up with any rational explanation for that?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yea, that's what I'm saying.😊

And I will continue to use those terms if people keep doing it.


So you're saying like Storm pulled a 10 once so she can always do a 10, will always do a 10, and anything below maybe an 8 is bad writing and should be ignored in favor of the 10?