U.S. Soldiers can be criminals too...

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and you think its easy to be sympathetic when your occupied, your family members have been killed, your livelehood and security has been taken away by a FOREIGN agressor? that logic works both ways. 1 thing is certain this world is ****ed and it doesnt work on things like mutual justice. what goes around doesnt come back around so we can set up idealistic courts/judgement and have to deal with the ACTIONS of both side rather than just the intentions of the best parts of all participants{which usually dont show in battle}. you can only be sum1's tool as long as you allow it.

lol, IM a 17-20 year old, and yea theyr pretty naive. doesnt matterm if their naivity makes one of em go in a position where he rapes and kills my sister, i wudnt just sit around and try to give him therapy, id lock him up forever if nothing else. its ****ed up, its unjust, but thats rally the best you can do as you cant sympethise with naivity when the OTHER side has lost a life and had to go through unendureable pain. if IM naive sumday and kill lotsa people, lock me up too. it nothing close to perfect, but best we can do in this imperfect world. and yea, showering in leavenworth appeals to me more than showering in the blood of innocent men and children. and again, i get what u mean, u got things to lose, but those things are nothing when u look at the alternative. {read my last post, i think it addresses all these point}. peace.

Easy to say, until you've been put to the test.
I've seen the other side of the coin 1st hand. I've treated women and kids with gunshot wounds, so yeah, i know it's not easy.
Yeah, Iraq is a f'n mess... It is what it is. You want every soldier to drop his weapon and just say no... That would be an amazing revolution, but it's not likely. Our society and economy is ran by the war machine. Yes, it's f*#$ed up. Hopefully one day it will change, but it's not going to happen overnight.
Bullets work both ways over there... It's a combat zone, make no mistake. If you stepped out of a cab in downtown Iraq, you'd be dead in about 10 mins. I've seen priest doing missionary work shot to pieces. Dead and mutilated contractors. It sucks bro, and it's no fun for either side beleive me.

i understand, itd be a miracle. but really the point im tryin to get across is that, your innocence and the life of other people is SO precious that all sane men SHOULD drop their weapons. none of us shud give a rat's ass about war run economies. they are only that way due to choice of the rulers, and posititvely dont REQUIRE IT. heck if any1 is gonna shot any1, shoot blaor, bush. olmert and any yasir arafat type that comes. along with the hasbulla leader. sick economies rent reason enough to keep destroying life, and we shudnt just say, THATS THE WAY IT IS. refusing to accept things as the status quo in itself helps to bring positive change.

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
I think war in general is wrong. So much death for so little reason. Hopefully this all ends with the next election or we may end up seeing a WW3!

War is wrong, but sometimes necessary

The Revolutionary War, The Civil War, WWI, WWII, The Korean War, The Gulf War and the War on Terror were/are all essential in order to protect society and the world as we know it.

"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."
- George S. Patton

Originally posted by Grimm22
War is wrong, but sometimes necessary

The Revolutionary War, The Civil War, WWI, WWII, The Korean War, The Gulf War and the War on Terror were/are all essential in order to protect society and the world as we know it.

"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."
- George S. Patton

1) Most of those examples are not necessary. Certainly not he civil war or the war on terror or the gulf war.

2) That quote is skewed - everyone will fight when they have no choice; mouse in the corner kind of thing except it is a whole bunch of mice. That's just a cute way of saying otherwise.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i understand, itd be a miracle. but really the point im tryin to get across is that, your innocence and the life of other people is SO precious that all sane men SHOULD drop their weapons. none of us shud give a rat's ass about war run economies. they are only that way due to choice of the rulers, and posititvely dont REQUIRE IT. heck if any1 is gonna shot any1, shoot blaor, bush. olmert and any yasir arafat type that comes. along with the hasbulla leader. sick economies rent reason enough to keep destroying life, and we shudnt just say, THATS THE WAY IT IS. refusing to accept things as the status quo in itself helps to bring positive change.

Since when has mankind ever been accused of being sane?