Originally posted by quanchi112
I just read final crisis one and wasnt impressed at all. I hope it gets much better than Darkseid brainwashing kids. Meh.
Says the guy who didn't read Seven Soldiers and thinks 'this morrison guy' doesn't know what he's doing. 🙄
You obviously don't know shit about Grant Morrison, so kindly go read Seven Soldiers and STFU. doped
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHey listen I probably wouldnt like seven soldiers as I leafed through it and found it weird and very boring.
Says the guy who didn't read Seven Soldiers and thinks 'this morrison guy' doesn't know what he's doing. 🙄You obviously don't know shit about Grant Morrison, so kindly go read Seven Soldiers and STFU. doped
This is all opinion based and so far the kids with red eyes was laughable to me. I hope it gets better than this is all I said.
I am sure the Prime stuff will be awesome as it even sounds cooler than this entire lame retcon of the new gods imo.
Originally posted by jumpmann
No, I knew what it was and laughed about it. A silly little philosophical concept I learned first year Uni. I thought it was clever, and the only real value that comes out of your posts. You've also come to the wrong place if you want to argue philosophical matters. I cared little then and less now. Descartes is the greatest living creature of all time. Point conceded.But you are good at dodging relevant points, I'll give you that. Much like the last thread.
Sorry .... the only one who seems to be 'dodging' is you
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=483547&pagenumber=3
and what does this even mean ?
"I thought it was clever, and the only real value that comes out of your posts"
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Sorry .... the only one who seems to be 'dodging' is youhttp://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=483547&pagenumber=3
and what does this even mean ?
"I thought it was clever, and the only real value that comes out of your posts"
I have not dodged anything. Besides the random psycho babble bs. Because you know, I don't care and this appears to be a comic forum. If I wanted to see an incoherent college drop out poop onto a computer screen I know another place where I can watch it happen.
This is the second thread with you where you've been hellbent on arguing off-topic matters. DC, Countdown, money, try and stay focused.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hey listen I probably wouldnt like seven soldiers as I leafed through it and found it weird and very boring.This is all opinion based and so far the kids with red eyes was laughable to me. I hope it gets better than this is all I said.
I am sure the Prime stuff will be awesome as it even sounds cooler than this entire lame retcon of the new gods imo.
Exactly as I thought. If you didn't like Seven Soldiers, you're going to hate Final Crisis. haermm
And I thought you liked the new gods? 🙄
Originally posted by TricksterPriestTo like New Gods, you have to like Seven Solders?
Exactly as I thought. If you didn't like Seven Soldiers, you're going to hate Final Crisis. haermmAnd I thought you liked the new gods? 🙄
To be honest, I'm not too fond of Infinity Gauntlet, and my favorite character is Thanos...
Anyway, why Quan keeps up this malarkey that he likes the New Gods is beyond me as well...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hey listen I probably wouldnt like seven soldiers as I leafed through it and found it weird and very boring.This is all opinion based and so far the kids with red eyes was laughable to me. I hope it gets better than this is all I said.
I am sure the Prime stuff will be awesome as it even sounds cooler than this entire lame retcon of the new gods imo.
You don't like the fact that the new Gods lameness has been retconned and they are now uber again?
Originally posted by TricksterPriestWho says you have to like seven soldiers to like the new gods. Seriously quit throwing your narrow minded views onto me or anyone else that has a different viewpoint than your own.
Exactly as I thought. If you didn't like Seven Soldiers, you're going to hate Final Crisis. haermmAnd I thought you liked the new gods? 🙄
I do like the new gods oh and by the way I liked Starlins death of the new gods.
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistI mainly like Darkseid. Orion I have respected more as of late but the rest are kinda lame if you want my opinion on the whole bunch of them.
To like New Gods, you have to like Seven Solders?To be honest, I'm not too fond of Infinity Gauntlet, and my favorite character is Thanos...
Anyway, why Quan keeps up this malarkey that he likes the New Gods is beyond me as well...
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm a fan of the New Gods, and I rather enjoyed "DotNG". It had it's quirks, just like every other story does - but I thought it was pretty good, overall. *shrugs*
me too... some of the dialogue was silly, but as you said, it wasn't bad...
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just read final crisis one and wasnt impressed at all. I hope it gets much better than Darkseid brainwashing kids. Meh.
how many pages did you actually read? there's more to the first issue alone than darkseid brainwashing kids...
quotes like that make me seriously question how much dc you've actually read, seriously...
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
A man in his late 30's, early 40's brainwashing and surrounded by kids...Nothing wrong with that.
This is the first time since Kirby handled him that I've thought Darkseid is an interesting character.
Pretty much since Kirby, Darkseid has been treated as kind of stereotypical, cut-out cardboard stand in for "evil."
Morrison's taken that cliche and pushed it further, making Darkseid the culmination of mankind's inhumanity to man: the paradigm of darkness.
The Metron/Anthro "Promotheus" scene was clever: Fire; cigarette; Green Lantern ring. I like the idea (and the way it ties into Seven Soldiers, of the space gods lead by warlike O'ryan) of the News Gods influencing, subtly the course of human history.
It's wonderful the way that Morrison is bringing together past story ideas; the culmination of mankind into the "Fifth World" gods, Darkseid falling backwards in time and creating the Dark Side club in order to control mankind.
The Manhunter's death (sorry, spoiler alert!) while sad, was spot on for what I think he's going for. The basic underlying linchpin of DC New Earth has shifted. Remember in Morrison's first foray into the Crime Syndicate, how he informed us (well, he informed us by proxy of Owlman ) that the CS couldn't achieve victory in the Positive Matter Universe because it's basic paradigmatic zeitgeist is good? The death of J'onn J'onnz is a brilliant example of how Darkseid's victory in the heavens shifts that: rather than go out in a blaze of glory in a noble death, the Martian was destroyed at the feet of group of cheering villains, while the Human Flame recorded it on his phone. The Human Flame thing? Brilliant. Human Flame; read Jungian ubersoul, collective unconsciousness, read Buddhist Samsara, Hindu Atman is Brahman.
Dan Turpin (what a wonderful character for the street-level perspective!) discovering a New God of good laying in garbage? Perfect. Orion's last words were indicative of Morrison's ability to write perfect epic dialogue: "He is in all of you. Fight." Haven't seen Kirby-esque over-the-top, apocalyptic language that good, that perfectly simple since the Mageddon arc. "Behold! The Armies of Man, as foretold in Prophecy!" or "The terrain itself is techno-active!: (a sentence I go out of my way to use on at least a daily basis).
Glorious Godfrey as an evangelist? The religious metaphors employed by Darkseid? Libra's sermon? Clever, clever use of biblical stuff.
And great New God redesigns, in this and Sketch Book . A perfect example of transition something to be more modern while maintaining vast reverence for the original concept.
Anyways, loved it. A little slow, but it is the first issue, so that's forgiven. Very much looking forward to the next issue; I also think this might be the first time I buy all the main tie-ins; Revelations, Beyond, and Three Worlds at least.
FINAL CRISIS: REVELATIONS #2
Written by Greg Rucka
Art by Philip Tan, Jeff de los Santos & Jonathan Glapion
Covers by Philip Tan
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On sale September 10 • 2 of 5 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US
That was my first thought when I heard of both Spectre and the Question involved in this 🙂
Originally posted by RaoulDo I have to go over page by page and give a complete summation about what happened in this entire issue to render my opinion?
me too... some of the dialogue was silly, but as you said, it wasn't bad...how many pages did you actually read? there's more to the first issue alone than darkseid brainwashing kids...
quotes like that make me seriously question how much dc you've actually read, seriously...
Seriously.