Heihachi vs. Kazuya

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
COME ONE, COME ALL!

Look at what Sado describes as

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Nevermind all the Devil signs disappearing as an unconscious Jin lies there unmoving.

He's STILL Devil Jin.

And let's not forget this beauty.

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1. That's after Jinpachi was killed. In fact, Jinpachi's escape triggered the evil building up inside Jin. Once Jinpachi was gone, Jin went back to normal, and it wasn't until Asuka went to him did he turn completely back to normal. He was KO'd as Devil Jin for the entire fight between Asuka and Jinpachi, you n00b. You continue to show your lack of comprehension since you're nothing but a helpless dumbass.

2. So, Lee being able to do those moves against Kazuya and Heihachi is impossible? I would expect to hear such from a n00bish idiot.

this just gets funnier and funnier. 🙂

T2 Devil: Pruple winged thing. Never talked to heihachi.

T4 Devil: Kazuya with red eyes talking to Heihachi.

But then again, you are the guy who sayd Heihachi was sleeping after Jin beat him...lol

And in the also offical Heihachi Prologue it makes no mention of this photo....Isn't that magical.

Can you not even remember your own stupid claims?

So, a winged dead body? As in, NOT the Kazuya with a few scars here and there. As in the Kazuya who had just been dropped in lava and wasn't even alive and regenerated yet?

So...Namco manufactures, writes and sends out a copy of these with a copy of each game to be totally unofficial and invalid? Man you are full of it.

So...the um, wings and everything receding into his body means he's still in Devil form to you? The only thing remaining are the markings, which Kaz didn't have. And again, this never happened

FOR THE ****ING LOVE OF GOD.
TEKKEN TAG IS NOT CANON.
You know the rules of this forum?
It says that me, the thread creator, decide if NON-CANON shit can be used.
I say no.
So get lost.

Good you admit you got something wrong then. I'm impressed.

PROVE he was unconscious or shut the **** up. No one cares about your inability to define unconscious. We care about facts. Facts that never onc ehinted that Heihachi slipped into unconsciousness after the blast from Devil.

So you are agreeing there' NO similarity in what Jun and Asuka did?

Tell that to Kunnimitsu killing Yoshimitsu and Lee owning his family.

man get a life and own up: you got raped, have no arguments, can't proove one thing to even a degree of satisfaction, dont know crap, haven't read the prologues, don't know the difference between the manuals and the prologues, keeps spamming the thread with lame videos that everyone has seen, cops out to shameful degrees and doesn't know that you are practically the KMC gimp now thanks to all the assraping you've been getting for 7 pages now.....seriously, just get lost and save what little dignity you have left, shinremy2.

~Sado

.................

Damn.

1. That's after Jinpachi was killed. In fact, Jinpachi's escape triggered the evil building up inside Jin. Once Jinpachi was gone, Jin went back to normal, and it wasn't until Asuka went to him did he turn completely back to normal. He was KO'd as Devil Jin for the entire fight between Asuka and Jinpachi, you n00b. You continue to show your lack of comprehension since you're nothing but a helpless dumbass.

Nope.

Sorry but he was no longer Devil Jin when she touched him.

Sorry if you think Jin with a few markings on him is Devil Jin. He needs the wings and stuff to be D. Jin.

2. So, Lee being able to do those moves against Kazuya and Heihachi is impossible? I would expect to hear such from a n00bish idiot.

....lol

Man you've reached a new level of ignorance.

Talk about missing the point.

is that a fact now? so they fought and never exchanged words now? not to mention the fact that kazuya and devil have physical similarities. they practically look alike minus the purple skin, wings and tail. gtfo, n00b, you clutching at straws as usual.

So, Devil Kazuya from T2 and Devil Kaz from T4 are way different jus tlike I said?

Glad to see you have a brain afterall.

coming from the guy who hasn't even read the prologues...and doesn't know that manauls and prologues are different because the manual only provides a SUMMARIZEd version of the canonstory.

Well, you see the difference is:

-what I said was right. The manuals are canon information.

-what you said about Heihachi being unconscious is your ASSUMPTION.

See how that works?

One is valid and the other is as wrong as everything else you say.

read prologue. understand story. shut the f--k up.

Play Tekken. Actually have a clue what happens int eh game. Shut the **** up.

I was USING a prologue, you tard.

dumbass....the winged dead body of his son. now let me retype that with emphasis on keywords
the winged dead body of his son
also kazuay never fell on lava, titface. his body fell on a rock cuz hachi is so stupid he drops a person down an active volcano and STILL screws it up.

So...Heihachi is supposed to recognize this?
"However, Heihachi discovered a photograph during his investigation that stirred his curiosity. The 20-year-old photograph was an image of a burnt corpse covered with laceration wounds. Heihachi paid particular attention to the corpse’s back, which had what looked like deformed, protruding wing-like limbs."

?
And he dropped Kaz on a rock? Says who?

right....and i'm sorry, but wasn't Jin the same in that TTT ending i pointed out? jun wiped out the MARKS from his face, you penis. Asuka did the same. and then there is the bit that Devil Jin literally came into existence because the devil was reacting to Jinpachi. again...read prologues, fagg0t.

Well, I know you've never played a Tekken game in your life but if you had you might have notice that the info Jinpachi triggered the Jin is in the Prologue they put in the game.

And I didn't realize "Devil Jin" doesn't even have wings.

i know the rules, son. fact of the matter is a non-canon source can be used as long as its not FEATS and isn't refuting canon info. so stick it. and oh, so you're finally agreeing that you have no rebuttal and have been pwned. jun=angel and you know it?

I do have a counter.

Ready for it?

Here it comes.

TEKKEN TAG NEVER HAPPENED.

Cal me when you have actual evidence to support your stupid theories.

proove that hachi was conscious the whole time when jin and kaz were fighting

I've never said he was. But he was conscious enough to be standing right there when the fight ended.

proove that hachi wasn't winded despite him looking like a goldfish at the time and the makers STATING the he was winded

I guess standing is your "looking like a goldfish".

proove that jun is not angel

n00b. I don't have to prove a negative. You made the claim Jun is Angel.

You haven't proven it at all. Try using a canon source sometime.

heck, proove that hachi fought devil.

Devil = Final Boss of T2. Which Heihachi won.
Devil = said Heihachi nearly killed him.

Huh. Fancy that.

really? read above, my son. jun and asuka BOTH WIPED AWAY TRACES OF DEVIL FROM JIN. and since kazuya is the original carrier of the devil gene, angel wiped away devil from him. its not really that hard, junior.

So, I've already posted the vids and how they are nothing alike.

But I invite anyone to look at them both, keeping in mind that neither happened or is actual proof of anything, and tell me if they're anything alike.

Sadly, they aren't.

instead of getting your thongs in such a bundle.
for one, kunimitsu and yoshi ARE rivals. hence alternate endings for them both....kinda like kaz beating jin and jin beating kaz in their endings. are you realy that stupid, nutty boy?

So you're finally admitting that those endings are not possible?

That they are NOT, as you said, in the character's actual powers?

Oh yes, Kaz beating Jin down...that flatly contradicts canon.

Fancy that.

Maybe it's because Tekken Tag NEVER happened, genius?

man get a life and own up: you got raped, have no arguments, can't proove one thing to even a degree of satisfaction, dont know crap, haven't read the prologues, don't know the difference between the manuals and the prologues, keeps spamming the thread with lame videos that everyone has seen, cops out to shameful degrees and doesn't know that you are practically the KMC gimp now thanks to all the assraping you've been getting for 7 pages now.....seriously, just get lost and save what little dignity you have left, shinremy2.

This from the guy who is VIOLATING thread rules repeatedly?

This from the guy who spazzed ou ta few pages ago and showed his true colors as a worthless ignorant fanboy?

This from the guy who thinks a dude will recognize a 20-YEAR-OLD photo of a burned and lacerated corpse?

This from the guy who thinks that TTT shows character's power sna dabilities and nothing outside of canon, despite teh fact Kaz beats Jin and Lee beats Kaz and other shit?

Yeah...your opinion is worthless. You have no credibility. You're a disgrace to the Tekken fandom and we can only hope you someday actually play a Tekken game.

P.S.
I'm PM'ing the mod about your repeatedly violating Forum Rules.

Both of you stop arguing like a bunch of fanboys.

Nikk, if you didn't want non-canon sources allowed you should have put it in the first post.

Sado, if someone says "no non-canon sources allowed", they cannot be used, period.

-what I said was right. The manuals are canon information.

what you said about Heihachi being unconscious is your ASSUMPTION.

Play Tekken. Actually have a clue what happens int eh game. Shut the **** up.

So...Heihachi is supposed to recognize this?
"However, Heihachi discovered a photograph during his investigation that stirred his curiosity. The 20-year-old photograph was an image of a burnt corpse covered with laceration wounds. Heihachi paid particular attention to the corpse’s back, which had what looked like deformed, protruding wing-like limbs."
?
And he dropped Kaz on a rock? Says who?

if you had you might have notice that the info Jinpachi triggered the Jin is in the Prologue they put in the game.

You haven't proven it at all. Try using a canon source sometime.

I guess standing is your "looking like a goldfish".

Devil = Final Boss of T2. Which Heihachi won.

Devil = said Heihachi nearly killed him.

now how about this:
-namco never SAID he fought him.
-heihachi tossed KAZUYA into the volcano. Not devil.
-20 years later, it says the same thing in T4.
-20 years later Devil introduces himself to heihachi and we are somehow magically suppossed to believe that kazuya morphed into devil but didn't utter a single word in their fight. 😆

So, I've already posted the vids and how they are nothing alike.

So you're finally admitting that those endings are not possible?
That they are NOT, as you said, in the character's actual powers?
Oh yes, Kaz beating Jin down...that flatly contradicts canon.
Fancy that.
Maybe it's because Tekken Tag NEVER happened, genius?

This from the guy who is VIOLATING thread rules repeatedly?

This from the guy who spazzed ou ta few pages ago and showed his true colors as a worthless ignorant fanboy?

This from the guy who thinks a dude will recognize a 20-YEAR-OLD photo of a burned and lacerated corpse?

This from the guy who thinks that TTT shows character's power sna dabilities and nothing outside of canon, despite teh fact Kaz beats Jin and Lee beats Kaz and other shit?

Yeah...your opinion is worthless. You have no credibility. You're a disgrace to the Tekken fandom and we can only hope you someday actually play a Tekken game.

I'm PM'ing the mod about your repeatedly violating Forum Rules.

~Sado
P.S. he should have posted it on the first thread. as for not bringing up noncanon sources...well, it offers a complete and obvious comparison to an event in a later game doing a feat that the predessor of a character does. it seemed fair to bring it up.

I read all of S_N's claims, and there's one thing I have to say.
Is this dude serious? :/

realize that canonstory given by makers is the real canon story. not the manual. shut the f--k up.

Rrealize that the canon story is in the manauals the makers publish and see fit to package with each of their games. Shut the **** up.

the same place where you picked that quote from, dimwit.
while you're at it look for Kazuya's tekken4 prologue pics, you'll see him lying on a rock inside the volcano. you'll the next pictuer where we see kazuya's "winged corpse" in the cylinder.....and guess what. it looks like kazuya.

Because he was being regenerated and revived?

The picture Heihachi got was not only very old, it might have been of Kaz right after G Corporation retrieved him. Not after they had revived him.

jun's prologue says she is trying to exorcise devil from kazuya
angel's prologue says she is vying for kazuya's soul.
vying for soul=exorcising demon
happy? of course not, n00b.

Of course I'm not. Those are two completely different things, moron.

One = THE GOOD SIDE OF KAZUYA.

The other = separate human being.

Both with similar goals.

That's all, newb.

copout.

Nope. You said he's blowing like a goldfish when he's just STANDING there.

Try playing a Tekken game.

proof?
and please, paul fought ogre but Jin is the one who fought True Ogre. just cuz someone won the tourny doesn't mean he necessarily fought the final boss, n00b.

You fail miserably because you leave out WE ARE TOLD SPECIFICALLy that Paul beat Ogre and Jin beat True Ogre.

We are NEVER told that Heihachi beat Kazuya and then someone else beat Devil. We ARE told that Heihachi nearly kills Devil and Devil leaves Kazuya to where Jin beats him.

-namco never SAID he fought him.

So...what exactly does this prove? Nothing? Okay.

-heihachi tossed KAZUYA into the volcano. Not devil.

This proves nothing? Great.

In fact, we're told Kaz has wings in that pic...so, did he magically grow wrings after his body was fried?

-20 years later Devil introduces himself to heihachi and we are somehow magically suppossed to believe that kazuya morphed into devil but didn't utter a single word in their fight.

Yep. Since Devil itself flatly states Heihachi already knows what he is.

so they are nothing alike because of the flash of white?

And the fact Angel fully reversed the Devil transformation while Asuka only made the markings disappear.

And also you forgot the fact Jun was holding her hand over his forehead while Asuka was just randomly touching his chest, IIRC. She didn't have a clue what she was even doing.

learn.
to.
read.
n00b.

Actually
play
the
games
loser.

What YOU said
"TTT hasn't involved anything outside of canon. that includes character powers and their abilities."

What is "outside of canon"?

Hm. Maybe...Kazuya beating Jin?
Maybe Kun beating Yoshi?

Both are flatly wrong by CANON?

You're pathetic.

you started a hate thread AND flamed people.
you flamed me even when i agreed to keep it civil.

Everyone who visits Page 3 will see your cheap-ass making an entire post dedicated to nothing but flaming me.

You just can't debate at all.

you mean the burnt corpse that looked completely like him. the burnt corpse that you (a guy who didn't notice kazuya's body on the rocks in his T4 prologue) didn't notice.

Can you prove that was Kaz after being thrown in the volcano?

And sorry but YOU have no idea what the photo Heihachi saw looked like.

Fail.

this coming from the guy who has made a repeated idiot out of himself and is the joke that everyone is spamming my PM inbox with.

Wow. They're spamming you PMs about me?

I kick ass.

i'm sorry. who is the guy who didn't see kazuya's body on the T4 prologue?

The one yoU ASSume was int eh volcano? lol

who is the guy everyone here is calling an idiot?

lolicopter. I'll have fun with this in my next post, showing what a liar you are.

who is the guy who answers a question with a copout question?

This from the idiot who thinks someone standing there is "blowing like a goldfish" and someone groaning and moving around is "unconscious"?

You are just pathetic.

who is the guy who has not provided any proof of annything he is saying, canon or otherwise?

lol I've proven EVERYTHING I've said.

Unlike you? The guy who thinks Angel is Jun? The guy who said the Devil left Kazuya before he fought Heihachi? The guy who uses TTT as evidence? Sad.

and who is the guy who didn't get one compliment over his debating and his "facts" and his posts since day one?

YOU'RE SUCH A MF'ING LIAR

Jesus you can't get anything right.

boohoo......bad Sadowink
get this thread closed and save your face: its the best option now that you've finally realized how badly you got assowned clown.
now don't bother replying unless you have something new to say.

Yep. More proof you're a lying ass.

Further proof Sado22 is a know-nothing troll who outright lies and twists what other users say.

right since Sam, superboy, shinremy and solvalentine all agree with me that:
-i am right
-all my points are valid
-and you're a dumbass who as sol-valentine said "needs to go".

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9431510&highlight=respect+userid%3A82674#post9431510

Sam Z:
And Nik, I read a lot of your posts and respect you a lot

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9438642&highlight=consciousness+userid%3A91794#post9438642

SBP:
IMO Heihachi never lost consciousness during the fight with Jin.

Your opinion is worthless from here on in. You can't get anything right.

I read all of S_N's claims, and there's one thing I have to say.
Is this dude serious?

Well, sorry that you feel this way but tell me.

Do you honeslty agree with Sado? Who said this about Heihachi:
"woke up, got pwned, fell asleep, woke up when he was about to get killed"

He's talking about this video. Does he look like he's sleeping to you? I didnt' realize groaning and having your eyes closed in pain before looking up at someone meant you were "asleep", did you?

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nik, read the post RIGHT ABOVE YOUR FREAKING post. so much for respecting your opinion 😆
anyway, i told you yesterday: post something new or just stfu. i see nothing new in what you've posted, hence i'm not gonna repeat myself. comeback when you do that. otherwise stay in your n00bish hell, n00b.

~Sado

And I don't see anything new either.

You've been caught in another pathetic lie, this one even worse because it involves taking the respected opinions of actually intelligent people and claiming they ALL agreed with you on EVERY point and ALl thought me a dumb shit. Which is, again, a LIE on your part.

You have no credibility and are not worth the time. You're a sad human being.

You know, I would like to respond to nikk's retarded posts but I see nothing getting through his thick skull any time soon, or ever.

Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
I read all of S_N's claims, and there's one thing I have to say.
Is this dude serious? :/

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
You have no credibility and are not worth the time. You're a sad human being.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Further proof Sado22 is a know-nothing troll who outright lies and twists what other users say.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9431510&highlight=respect+userid%3A82674#post9431510

Sam Z:
And Nik, I read a lot of your posts and respect you a lot

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9438642&highlight=consciousness+userid%3A91794#post9438642

SBP:
IMO Heihachi never lost consciousness during the fight with Jin.

Your opinion is worthless from here on in. You can't get anything right.

Well, sorry that you feel this way but tell me.

Do you honeslty agree with Sado? Who said this about Heihachi:
"woke up, got pwned, fell asleep, woke up when he was about to get killed"

He's talking about this video. Does he look like he's sleeping to you? I didnt' realize groaning and having your eyes closed in pain before looking up at someone meant you were "asleep", did you?

YouTube video

THIS is trolling.

I said to cut out the bickering and hostility. I'm closing the thread.

And Nikk, that is a warning for flaming and for ignoring an order to stop doing so. I do not tolerate such behavior. You debate civilly or you don't at all.