Originally posted by Endless Mike
Nothing. But that would count as a forfeit.Um, no. Superman's fighting speed is far beyond anything seen in DBZ.
Post a scan of him doing this.
When? Post a scan.
Your source for these figures? Where are your calculations? Stop just making numbers up out of thin air. And learn to quote properly, it's not hard.
What are you talking about? It was a ball of ki. Ki can do tons of weird things in the DBU, trapping someone and then exploding is not out of the question. Furthermore, it even makes sense, since DBZ characters can catch ki blasts and hold them as if they were physical objects before they explode. And you still have not provided any kind of source or reasoning whatsoever for your claim that this is an FTL feat. Simply saying it is doesn't make it so. Furthermore, what do you mean, the explosion was "instant"? It looked like a normal explosion to me. Finally, he was inside of the thing, so it wouldn't matter how fast he was moving, he would have to have taken some damage when it exploded, and just outran the majority of the energy released in the explosion.
Even if we accept your claims that:
A. The ball he was trapped in started out as matter (of which there is no evidence whatsoever)
B. The damage from the explosion was caused by it converting to energy (still no evidence, and a solid object that size, especially one strong enough to restrain Goku's movement, would release a lot more energy if its mass was converted than the explosion we saw)
Then you still have to address the rate of conversion. It could have taken several seconds to fully convert.
Goku was never hit with that attack directly, so you're still wrong.
So does Superman.
You're comparing Vegeta to Yamcha? You do realize that Yamcha is practically the most pathetic hero in the series, right?
What are you talking about?
Considering Goku doesn't have Kryptonite, I don't see your point. And Batman never "beat the crap out of him" with it, either.
DBZ characters: Less than 1% lightspeed
Superman: At least dozens of times lightspeed
Blatant lie.
Would that include a temporary prison to immobilize someone? Or is that the exception?
So far, all you've provided is a good laugh.
That was overwhelming one beam with another, not shielding himself with it. It protected him because it was actively pushing the other beam back.
This again? He speedblitzes practically in every other fight he's in nowadays.
Lie. Way to ignore all of my examples.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanspeedfight.jpg
Prove it.
Then post a scan showing a reflex feat from Goku that's greater than Superman's. And BTW, escaping an explosion of undefined speed and then making up a bunch of crap about it doesn't count.
Okay, let's go over this again: What's the most damage a DBZ character has ever caused with a punch? Knocking down a few small hills?
Superman has been punched across the earth, to the moon, straight through the earth, and not been hurt at all.
Goku could wail on him all day and it wouldn't do a thing.
And he would somehow know that Superman is vulnerable to red sunlight, and where a red star was, and there would conveniently be life there with ki he could sense, and it would conveniently live on a planet with a breathable atmosphere.... see why this doesn't work?
Genki dama only hurts evil people. Sorry.
You keep stating this, but have provided absolutely no evidence to back it up. Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true.
WTF? Superman took Asmodel's light of heaven attack which would have destroyed his soul had it not been pure. He was fine.
So now bullets > supernovae and galaxy-destroying attacks. 🙄
Your arguments just keep getting more and more irrational.
PROVE.
IT.
Wait.... what?
Key word: weakened. BTW, are you talking about Dark Knight Returns? Because that's not canon.
Okay, what? Stop making things up.
Just like Spider-man and Kenshin.
What issue is Supes fighting that guy in your scan?
