Superman vs Goku (Official Thread)

Oh and Sarutobi, why don't you try actually making your own arguments, instead of just quoting the arguments of others and sucking up to them?

^^Cos i aint that articulate

Originally posted by Endless Mike
More like: Goku wins if Superman only uses a tiny fraction of his actual power for no reason other than the fact that Joey Stacks thinks he won't because he doesn't do so in every single comic he's in.

Once out of 500 showings? I read his comics routinely, and he does this kind of stuff all the time.

The fact that there is a Superman thread over 50 pages long(and growing) full of these type of insane feats shows that there is nothing rare about them.

Fanboys in denial won't change that.

Seriously, Superman does not use more skill in fights than Goku.

Meh, skill is merely the power source for why they can pull off the feats they do. Everything you see in DBZ is skill. Skill is also what allows Wolverine to hang with Spiderman. Spiderman has no skill, but does that mean that he doesn't or can't do the things he does?

Goku strength=Skill(training)
Superman Stength = Kryptonian physiology's interaction with yellow solar energy.

Superman's strength is still above Goku's Strength. SUperman's stats are still higher than Goku's even if we say that Goku's skill is higher.

Take away the skill, the training and what was learned from both? Superman is still superman. Goku would be nothing special.

^^Nope Goku would be a Saiyan able to transform to a full moon and would naturally be stronger than normal humans. Put Supes and Goku under a red sun.

Supes will still beat Goku under a red sun, he's fought more powerful people than Goku under a red sun.

Originally posted by Avlon
The fact that there is a Superman thread over 50 pages long(and growing) full of these type of insane feats shows that there is nothing rare about them.

Fanboys in denial won't change that.

excuse me sir, but.................

all of those type of insane feats are incomplete and exagerrated by fans.
especially the pre-crisis kryptonian respect thread, it's full of edited scans or should i say CHEATS. It is one of the very big disadvantage of respect thread.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Meh, skill is merely the power source for why they can pull off the feats they do. Everything you see in DBZ is skill. Skill is also what allows Wolverine to hang with Spiderman. Spiderman has no skill, but does that mean that he doesn't or can't do the things he does?

Goku strength=Skill(training)
Superman Stength = Kryptonian physiology's interaction with yellow solar energy.

Superman's strength is still above Goku's Strength. SUperman's stats are still higher than Goku's even if we say that Goku's skill is higher.

Take away the skill, the training and what was learned from both? Superman is still superman. Goku would be nothing special.

true, without training goku is nothing.

and you called that fair?

Current Supes feats are done often and has stayed consistant, you can dimiss them all you like but they still happened, mutiple times.

Supes wins this, it's time for the DBZ support to just admit it.

Originally posted by dvampire
Current Supes feats are done often and has stayed consistant, you can dimiss them all you like but they still happened, mutiple times.

Supes wins this, it's time for the DBZ support to just admit it.

i don't care who would win in this thread,

but i know what i'm talking about and i know if the scan is cheated.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
i don't care who would win in this thread,

but i know what i'm talking about and i know if the scan is cheated.

Well it's to bad that everyone doesn't think the way you do, none of those scans are fake. If you doubt the scans, all you have to do is ask for the issue number, and they'll give it to you.

Originally posted by dvampire
Well it's to bad that everyone doesn't think the way you do, none of those scans are fake. If you doubt the scans, all you have to do is ask for the issue number, and they'll give it to you.

i didn't say it's fake, i said they cheated it by editing or cutting.

buy comics plz, the dc archieve superman or any superman.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Meh, skill is merely the power source for why they can pull off the feats they do. Everything you see in DBZ is skill. Skill is also what allows Wolverine to hang with Spiderman. Spiderman has no skill, but does that mean that he doesn't or can't do the things he does?

Goku strength=Skill(training)
Superman Stength = Kryptonian physiology's interaction with yellow solar energy.

Superman's strength is still above Goku's Strength. SUperman's stats are still higher than Goku's even if we say that Goku's skill is higher.

Take away the skill, the training and what was learned from both? Superman is still superman. Goku would be nothing special.

But thing is, I meant fighting skill.

Let's just be honest...how does Supes usually fight? Punch, block with face, punch, block with face....see a pattern? That's one thing JS has been right about. And saying any random street thug would kick a powerless Goku's ass is underration to the max.

Originally posted by nij-ayias
i didn't say it's fake, i said they cheated it by editing or cutting.

buy comics plz, the dc archieve superman or any superman.

From what I've seen, the people show full scans, without editing or cutting anything out. I've also posted scans of his feats, and have done no such thing.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
For the record, I have stated multiple times Superman would win quite easily, due to the great difference in speed and strength.

But thing is, I meant fighting skill.

Let's just be honest...how does Supes usually fight? Punch, block with face, punch, block with face....see a pattern? That's one thing JS has been right about. And saying any random street thug would kick a powerless Goku's ass is underration to the max.

Superman fights using skill. He even uses pressure points. When he fights his enemy he even caculates how much force he's going to put in his punches.

Originally posted by dvampire
Superman fights using skill. He even uses pressure points. When he fights his enemy he even caculates how much force he's going to put in his punches.

and how rare is that pressure point scene? one in a quintillion?

it's a skill of holding back or calculating not a skill of combat or warfare.

Originally posted by dvampire
Superman fights using skill. He even uses pressure points. When he fights his enemy he even caculates how much force he's going to put in his punches.

Holding back isn't fighting skill, it's knowledge of your own capabilities and using just enough force to get the job done.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Pressure points? Any dumbass who has a friend that takes martial arts can use pressure points. I know a few myself, and know how to use them. Usually, he does exactly what I said, throws a punch, and blocks with his face. Goku throws punches and kicks, and blocks with forearms, elbows, or other proper places to block.

you got what i mean 🙂

Holding back from hurting his opponent is a skill. He doesn't just randomly come into a fight swinging with full force.

How many times have Goku used pressure points? Has he ever used them at all? Where was his skill when he was fighting Buu who had no fighting back ground of any kind.

Originally posted by Sarutobi700
Supes fanboys quit life cos u just got PWNEDS

adding to the fact that several of joey stacks' statements about superman were actually wrong, the 'quit life' statement is out of line.

and yet again, i see people underrating superman as a fighter... he only spars regularly with wonder woman, and trains with batman...

yeah, nothing impressive about that...