Originally posted by LightsnakeWhat makes you think her force drain would kill him so easily? Just because it worked on three nobodies whom have yet to display anything remarkable with the force does not mean it would work on some one obviously far stronger than the three jedi masters.
It's not going to help him here. Unless Traya doesn't use the force drain at first, then she's dead, or if Mace can reach her before she does, given his speed.But those are large ifs
The stronger the opponent, the higher their resistance and more likely that they will put up a defence which will block the attack.
Originally posted by LightsnakeAnd where was it stated that she knows a technique which severs a victim from life and the force? What indicates to you that even if she did posses such a technique, that she would be able to touch the bond of a very strong force user?
I think we're confused on how this actually works: It's severing the victim from the force and life, rather than just sucking it out of them...even for Mace, that's...vicious
You seem to forget, the stronger the force user, the higher his defences and resistance is hence the harder to touch his force bond.
It took 3 people alone, luke leia and the unborn child to even temporarily cut palpatine off the force let alone for a single force user to destroy a force bond of a powerful force user.
Anyways that attack was a force drain,there is absolutely nothing to indicate it was even a technique which severs life and the force.
Even the weaker variant the force sever took mere moments for it to even take effect on the exile before getting interrupted by kreia and such techniques have been resisted before, i recall janus posting a scan of kun resisting a force sever by odan urr.
Originally posted by Ivalice
And where was it stated that she knows a technique which severs a victim from life and the force? What indicates to you that even if she did posses such a technique, that she would be able to touch the bond of a very strong force user?
You seem to forget, the stronger the force user, the higher his defences and resistance is hence the harder to touch his force bond.
It took 3 people alone, luke leia and the unborn child to even temporarily cut palpatine off the force let alone for a single force user to destroy a force bond of a powerful force user.Anyways that attack was a force drain,there is absolutely nothing to indicate it was even a technique which severs life and the force.
Even the weaker variant the force sever took mere moments for it to even take effect on the exile before getting interrupted by kreia and such techniques have been resisted before, i recall janus posting a scan of kun resisting a force sever by odan urr.
I am not really trying to engage myself into a debate let alone a heated one... but let me address a few points which i do not agree with please?
Originally posted by LightsnakeI asked you to prove that it was a force sever or an ability which severs a victims connection to the force, again the attack was depicted as a mere force drain which took down 3 nobodies.
Essentially, she used it on Vrook, Kavarr and Zez.
A drain attack differs from a sever technique, completely.
Originally posted by Lightsnake3 whom showed no sign of resistance? 3 of whom were nobodies? 3 of whom did not throw up a defence?
Naturally..but still, three at once? Powerful as Mace is, a jolt of that, even if he does survive...
I might as well speculate darth zannah would PWN kreia because as an untrained child she broke the necks of two jedi's. Again even in that situation the two jedi were caught by suprise and had not thrown up any resistance or a defence.
I could simply argue that they were caught by surprise considering the fact that they drawed their lightsabers out expecting it would end up as a 3 v 1 duel.
I still recall you debating that kreia was preparing the attack when talking back in 2006 when i was still a nihilus fanboy.
Originally posted by LightsnakeI was using a metaphor on how difficult it is to sever a strong force users connection let alone for one person to destroy a force bond of a powerful force(mace) user that easily.
You cannot seriously compare DE Palpatine to Mace Windu in Force powers, though...Palp is so far above Mace as of DE.
The point is seeing maces strength in the force, i seriously doubt she could even tamper his bond(assuming she has the technique which is currently unproven) as easily as it seems.
Originally posted by LightsnakeDo you have a scan of it? I need it to avoid confusion...
Different techniques. Odan tried to use the 'Wall of Light' on Kun. Different from the drain/sever, completely
EDIT weren't you fond of saying vaapad could reflect most dark side techniques?
3 whom showed no sign of resistance? 3 of whom were nobodies? 3 of whom did not throw up a defence?
3 whom showed no sign of resistance? 3 of whom were nobodies? 3 of whom did not throw up a defence?I could simply argue that they were caught by surprise considering the fact that they drawed their lightsabers out expecting it would end up as a 3 v 1 duel.
1. Showed no visible sign of resistence.
2. 3 Jedi masters
3. same as the first
4. Jedi reaction times.And its 'drew'.
Originally posted by Darth ExodusThe correct term would be no sign traya humper, because they drawed their lightsabers thinking the 3 of them could take her down together hence they under estimated her
1. Showed no [b]visible sign of resistence.
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Originally posted by Darth ExodusAll in but name, the 3 of them were utter weaklings in the force.
2. 3 [b]Jedi masters
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Even if mace were to go down in a force fight, it wouldn't be easy for kreia to simply "wave her hand and take him down".
Its not like mace does not have any dark side techniques of his own.
Originally posted by IvaliceThey saw an enemy walk in and freeze the Exile, then drew their lightsabers. Yeah, how ridiculous is that?
The correct term would be no sign traya humper, because they drawed their lightsabers thinking the 3 of them could take her down together hence they under estimated her
All in but name, the 3 of them were utter weaklings in the force.WTF is this? Three of the most powerful Jedi Masters of the era are "utter weaklings"? Is that based on anything?
Even if mace were to go down in a force fight, it wouldn't be easy for kreia to simply "wave her hand and take him down".Unfortunately, if Kreia was pissed off, it likely would be.
Its not like mace does not have any dark side techniques of his own.Right. So Mace Windu, a Jedi, is going to defeat Darth Traya, a powerful Sith Lord, with the Dark side. Brilliant.
Originally posted by Faunus
Right. So Mace Windu, a Jedi, is going to defeat Darth Traya, a powerful Sith Lord, with the Dark side. Brilliant.
Jedi, especially, Mace, are usually too blind to realize that if they stopped suppressing the evil inside them, the neutral Unifying Force would reflect it into that which most know as the "Dark Side" and allow them much more power without consequence. Just suppress the evil when you die, and the Force can take you to its Netherworld, instead of Chaos.
However, Mace Windu could use some of these techniques to fight Traya. I agree with Ivalice. (Note: This is becoming really scary! I'm agreeing with Ivalice more and more! What's happening to me?! )