Wolverine Origins (MODS please read)

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually PIS stands for Plot Induced Stupidity. If the entire damend run's plot is stupid, that would make everything that happened in it Stupidity for the sake of the plot or plot induced stupidity.

You feel I do not know what the acronym stands for?

A feat can be described as 'plot induced stupidity.' A feat a character should be incapable of, but performs anyways for the sake of the plot - either making the writing easier or just more exciting for the reader. Captain America throwing his shield after an ICBM is pretty 'stupid.' But it wrapped up the plot well, and was pretty damned cool to see.

A run, however, doesn't happen for the sake of the plot. It isn't a feat. A run IS the plot. A plot cannot be plot induced stupidity.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm sure enough people like that cuz or else they would've altered it or canceled it

I'm sure most of them are Wolverine completest like me who just can't drop the book. 🙁

Originally posted by Mindset
Lol arouse, I think you mean arose.

Unless pis gets you off

I'm Canadian... I just through 'u's into everything for safe measure lol

Yea, I actually don't know why I read Origins.

Originally posted by Soljer
You feel I do not know what the acronym stands for?

A feat can be described as 'plot induced stupidity.' A feat a character should be incapable of, but performs anyways for the sake of the plot - either making the writing easier or just more exciting for the reader. Captain America throwing his shield after an ICBM is pretty 'stupid.' But it wrapped up the plot well, and was pretty damned cool to see.

A run, however, doesn't happen for the sake of the plot. It isn't a feat. A run IS the plot. A plot cannot be plot induced stupidity.

SIP?

Stupidity induced Plot?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
We get one issue a month (if we are lucky) and character's age - maybe - one year for every five. There is a lot of room in there for descrepencies in locations between titles. You can get an entire six issue arch that takes place in a single day... what are they doing for the rest of the year? Vacation?

In her first appearence she mentions that she was an aces gymnist attending Beverly hills prep. meaning she was getting ready to go to college.

Remember, while marvel does have fictional places it also has real places. And beverly hills prep:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Hills_Preparatory_School

Actually exists.

Originally posted by Soljer
You feel I do not know what the acronym stands for?

A feat can be described as 'plot induced stupidity.' A feat a character should be incapable of, but performs anyways for the sake of the plot - either making the writing easier or just more exciting for the reader. Captain America throwing his shield after an ICBM is pretty 'stupid.' But it wrapped up the plot well, and was pretty damned cool to see.

A run, however, doesn't happen for the sake of the plot. It isn't a feat. A run IS the plot. A plot cannot be plot induced stupidity.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm sure enough people like that cuz or else they would've altered it or canceled it

They don't come here so your point is moot.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Which is why I asked for a new ruling to ignore runs as a whole. If we as a forum can make a rule to ignore feats for PIS, I don't see why we can't make up a rule to ignore a run... I mean... we made the PIS rule up when the need arised (arouse?), I think the need has arisen to deal with archs.

I don't see why PIS is limited to feats of strength influenced by the plot... and not a plot influeced by stupidity.

For one, we as a forum do NOT ignore feats as plot induced stupidity. We have a rule that allows us to argue, in context, that some feats SHOULD be disregarded, and some posters feel certain feats fall into this category. Other posters disagree. There isn't a 'master list' note at the top of the forum that says "these feats are PIS and are, therefore, unusable." What you are suggesting is, more or less "this(ese) run(s) are unusable in this forum." And anytime someone says "Wolverine did XXXXX in Origins," you cite this thread and say "nuh-uh! Not on KMC, he didn't!"

Point is, you may feel that a certain feat is PIS, another post disagrees. Our rule regarding PIS does NOT validate your position, it simply allows you to take it. The two of you can argue till the cows come home over whether Captain America should have really been able to throw his shield after an ICBM.

In a similar manner, feel free to argue in a thread that feats from Origins should be ignored because the writer is a moron who disregards continuity and characterization and personally, anally, and forcefully rapes Wolverine at every turn. There should not however be an all-encompassing rule that says "Origins? Nuh-uh."

Originally posted by Creshosk
Some people mark the passing of time by the surrounding environment. We call them seasons. The leaves turn brown and fall off, then frozen water falls for a period of time, before things get warmer and the frozen water goes away and flowers bloom and the leaves come back. We call this a year.

In her first appearence she mentions that she was an aces gymnist attending Beverly hills prep. meaning she was getting ready to go to college.

Remember, while marvel does have fictional places it also has real places. And beverly hills prep:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Hills_Preparatory_School

Actually exists.

Yeah there are mistakes.

Wolverine's adopted daughter was a new born with Franklin Richards was four or five... now she is 18, and Franklin Richards is like... what? 10? Marvel's editors aren't that hot, I guess. 🙁

Originally posted by Creshosk
I don't see an F in PIS do you?

Lulz. Keep dodging.

The cache size is something we use to describe microprocessors. I don't see a 'microprocessor' in cache size, so clearly we can also apply it to automobiles, no?

Damn, that Dodge Viper's got a huge cache! Yeah! And did you hear about it's clock speed? Jesus! Don't get me started on the front side bus.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah there are mistakes.

Wolverine's adopted daughter was a new born with Franklin Richards was four or five... now she is 18, and Franklin Richards is like... what? 10? Marvel's editors aren't that hot, I guess. 🙁

YEah its too bad there's not a geek like us working there to check for plot holes. because there are some that you could fit the moon through.

Originally posted by Soljer
Lulz. Keep dodging.

The cache size is something we use to describe microprocessors. I don't see a 'microprocessor' in cache size, so clearly we can also apply it to automobiles, no?

Damn, that Dodge Viper's got a [b]huge cache! Yeah! And did you hear about it's clock speed? Jesus! Don't get me started on the front side bus. [/B]

I lol

Originally posted by Creshosk

YEah its too bad there's not a geek like us working there to check for plot holes. because there are some that you could fit the moon through.

Originally posted by Starscream M
it's only geeks like us who care about these plotholes

Too true

Originally posted by Mindset
Too true

Indeed. Everyone else just cares about being entertained for a short period of time.

Which, clearly, tens of thousands of people are by Origins.

Originally posted by Soljer
For one, we as a forum do NOT ignore feats as plot induced stupidity. We have a rule that allows us to argue, in context, that some feats SHOULD be disregarded, and some posters feel certain feats fall into this category. Other posters disagree. There isn't a 'master list' note at the top of the forum that says "these feats are PIS and are, therefore, unusable." What you are suggesting is, more or less "this(ese) run(s) are unusable in this forum." And anytime someone says "Wolverine did XXXXX in Origins," you cite this thread and say "nuh-uh! Not on KMC, he didn't!"

Point is, you may feel that a certain feat is PIS, another post disagrees. Our rule regarding PIS does NOT validate your position, it simply allows you to take it. The two of you can argue till the cows come home over whether Captain America should have really been able to throw his shield after an ICBM.

In a similar manner, feel free to argue in a thread that feats from Origins should be ignored because the writer is a moron who disregards continuity and characterization and personally, anally, and forcefully rapes Wolverine at every turn. There should [b]not however be an all-encompassing rule that says "Origins? Nuh-uh." [/B]

Yes but we have examples of PIS stupidity in the Rules Section as examples of what it is. If we had a rule that allowed entire runs to be disregarded, why not used Origins as the example?

The plot is Origins is so ridiculous and out of line with the character, that we need a new rule to deal with it. It's existence doesn't make and sense. I don't see why having a rule to disregard archs for their stupidity and lake of continuity in their characterization, is so far removed from disregarding feats of a ridiculous nature that are influenced by the plot.

It is kind of like ignoring filler episodes in an anime... not sure why it is such a big deal.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes but we have examples of PIS stupidity in the Rules Section as examples of what it is. If we had a rule that allowed entire runs to be disregarded, why not used Origins as the example?

The plot is Origins is so ridiculous and out of line with the character, that we need a new rule to deal with it. It's existence doesn't make and sense. I don't see why having a rule to disregard archs for their stupidity and lake of continuity in their characterization, is so far removed from disregarding feats of a ridiculous nature that are influenced by the plot.

It is kind of like ignoring filler episodes in an anime... not sure why it is such a big deal.

ie...we rule that spiderman beating firelord is PIS because it seems to be impossible for spiderman to do the slightest damage to Firelord

we wouldnt rule something PIS because it was against spiderman's character though

Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed. Everyone else just cares about being entertained for a short period of time.

Which, clearly, tens of thousands of people [b]are by Origins. [/B]

Most people are stupid though. 😠

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
not sure why it is such a big deal.

1) it is hard to reach a consensus. Sure you and many others may think origins is a load of shit, but what about those who don't?

2) it is a slippery slope that opens floodgates for people to bring other things to be banned...which would not be good.