Phantom Zone
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Originally posted by jinzin
You can't be bothered? Then what's the point of starting this little debate between us in the first place. It IS a stretch to say that he was distracted/effected more than Wolverine. It IS a stretch to assume that's the only reason DD faired poorly when Wolverine was transitioning to the last panel as he told DD about Mary.
Oh I see so now its a stretch now is it? First of all you stated that when Wolverine fought SS and he was distracted it was a legitimate reason. When I borught up the DD example you changed that its t subjective and now its a stretch.....anyway jrod posted scans that proved that that suit affected his ability to fight.
So its not just the suprise it his suit as well. Anyway DD showed enough strength in his fight with Wolverine in EOTS that he could get out of a full-nelson.
Originally posted by jinzin
Then consider yourself reported for trolling.
Its frustrating having to explain stuff I feel I shouldn't have to. Its frustarting having to debate with somebody whos always trying to twist things around hell look at what you're doing with the DD vs Wolverine fight.
Originally posted by jinzin
No.. what does that matter concerning anything?
...and this is exactly what im talking about.
Originally posted by jinzin
And this is why I surmised that you thought it acceptable for Cap to KO Hulk with punches... 😐
No I call it PIS because it completely disregards a characters common representation for the sake of getting Cap or DD out of hairy situations..
Tell me this.. If Wolverine has more feats where he's taken worse damage to the throat area than he has been effected by damage to that area why is the ONE DD example of DD damaging him with a throat strike the more acceptable feat?
Do you not find that odd?
If Hulk has more feats of not even being effected by damage output greater than Cap can dish out with his fingers or fists why is Cap's feat the more valid to you?
Er no becuase worse damage is subjective Mr Hyde has taken worse damage but that still didn't stop DD dropping him with a pressure point.
Its an established fact that MAs are able to hurt people who can take vast amounts of damage hell back in the day BP was able to hurt Savage HUlk with a kick is all that PIS?
Hell havent you argued that Wolverine was able to hurt Roughouse with his barehands and hurt HUlk with a headbutt etc etc. I dunno sounds like blatant hypocrisy.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yes. His HF was depleted due to malnourishment and deprivation after HOM up to days before the Cap fight to the point he blacked out. During the fight Cap nailed him with the Muramasa, a blade he can't heal from. He said that the wound that was left made Wolverine feel like he was dying.
No it was written down because Way, the guy who just got done writing an arc where Wolverine's taking everything DP could dish out to him for three issues straight needed to raise the stakes of his story line.
STFU. You've admitted that you argue for no other reason than to argue. You've admitted that you do it just to rile Wolverine fans. Hell yes you're bias.
And me get out? You're the one "sigh"ing every other post.
Newsflash: no one's hounding you endlessly in every thread you appear in. On the other hand you ARE invasive of every thread Wolverine appears in for no other reason than to argue with Wolverine fans. Either be ready for consistent retorts or stop being a trolling fool.
It didn't.
Yeah DD looks great. Disarmed, knocked across a room twice, bleeding clutching his chest and owing his "victory" to several plot devices against a weakened mind controlled Wolverine... SOOOO impressive. 😐
Im done with that im not going to argue it any further. If you must know im actually trying to have a proper debate but if it pisses you off....good!
Originally posted by jrodslam
Not seeing the fail there. I stated as well as it was shown, that Wolvie was not able to fight off the mind control the entire time. There was an instance where Wolvie seemed to be stalling, thus showing us that hes actually fighting it to a degree. There are also times where the mins control fully took Wolvie over and he was going to continue with his mission. Noone is denying that Wolvie tried to fight it. The thing that you and others try to make it seem is that Wolvie was trying to fight it the entire fight. Like he was never completely overcome by it, which is false.
For me there is not enough evidence to say that he was fighting the mindcontrol.
Its not like when he was fighting Thing and he almost got clobbered because of it. There is no dialogue saying Kill Daredevil and Wolverine trying to resist it, hell even the yellow and green boxes show animosity towards DD.
I would agree that when he says 'Shut up' that could be a distraction but its not exactly a big deal.