Spider-man and The Jedi Order

Started by Rogue Jedi39 pages

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh your one of the people blind to the moment wahere he let Mace off the hook...?
Since you clearly need reminding, watch the scene again:

Watch for the bit where Palapatine has his sabre within striking range of Maces throat. Mace is clearly caught unawares as his last move has left his center line way open (Arms outstretched) Looking down at the blade ina blatant "F**k! I didnt seee that..." fashion.
Mace is DEFENSELESS at that point.
There is so much supporting this argument that only an imbecile would arrogantly pronounce it as not happening.

Palpatine allows Mace back into the fight.
Dicks cant see it.

Mace and Sidious dueled, Mace bested him, Sidious was finished. He didnt allow Mace to best him, he was just bested. He had Sidious, coulda killed him, but the Jedi in him had to question that.

It was when Anakin showed up that he began the whole drama routine, trying to get Anakin to help him, because he knew he was beaten.

As for the "F**k I didnt see that.." part, are you on drugs?

You're missing it.
Its there.

Ill cap you it, because while even when you see it, you'll deny it, everyone else'll know. Youre just being obtuse again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJVhuIRgYM0

Here. Around the 2:07 - 2:08 mark.

Ergo: Youre full of shit.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
WTF you clown shoe.

It was addressing your ludicrosity.

If its nonsense to you, its because
1) Its true: So naturally you will be blind to it anyways.
2) It was a reasoned retort to a brain dead post.

Are you SERIOUSLY saying that physical endurance feats arent relevant in a fight thread...?

Right thats it.

I can no longer take anything you say seriously.

Mhm....That's what I thought, no, what I KNEW you would say. 😉

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well there are no Jedi in Spidey's films either....

Point out where they are, and you wont be a schmuck for your last statement.

Woooohooooo Spidey wins lolz

You imply that maybe Parker gets force powers by entering the SW universe, and I'M the clown shoe? 😆

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You're missing it.
Its there.

Ill cap you it, because while even when you see it, you'll deny it, everyone else'll know. Youre just being obtuse again.

Bring it on, baby.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You're missing it.
Its there.

Ill cap you it, because while even when you see it, you'll deny it, everyone else'll know. Youre just being obtuse again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJVhuIRgYM0

Here. Around the 2:07 - 2:08 mark.

Ergo: Youre full of shit.

I'll let it load then watch in a bit, gotta run some errands. 😄

Yesssssssssssssss, plenty of Horses need 'milking', huh...? 😉

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mhm....That's what I thought, no, what I KNEW you would say. 😉

You imply that maybe Parker gets force powers by entering the SW universe, and I'M the clown shoe? 😆

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Bring it on, baby.

You must get that a lot then.

At least your precogntion is better than the thosands of Jedi killed in the saga....

Bring what on?

More kleenex to assist your blubbing...?

Awesome enjoy the video, person who is wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Yes, Luke is incredibly powerful, but even he could not resist the Emperor's force lightning, not even with the force at his disposal. To think a being such as Spider man, strong as he is physically, can do so, it the epitome of stupidity.

I never said he could take Sidious. Not beating the most powerful force user in the entire saga doesn't prove that he couldn't beat other Jedi and Sith though.

Explain to me why, after thousands of SW debates with hundreds of people over the years, after countless articles and books, after the movies, after umpteen George Lucas interviews has anyone ever implied that physical strength can counter the force? Have you ever seen someone say "Hey, if someone if physically stronger than another person, they can counter the force?" Do you even begin to fathom now silly that sounds?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

The force is, and I quote, "An energy field created by all living things." and ""The Force surrounds us… and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter." Yoda emphasized his point by poking his stick at Luke.

Silly, doesn't prove a thing. And, including EU, non frce user best Jedi on multiple occassions. Spider-Man can, too, if they can.

If Jango can go toe to toe with Obi Wan...and he can, then Spider Man can ten times over.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yeas, plenty of Horses need 'milking', huh...? 😉
OK I watched it, **** the errands haermm

I saw what you meant, and that's just Sidious's fighting stance. If you look at 1:20, 1:45, 2:50, and 3:00, you will see that he fights with his saber pointed at his enemy.

And the scene where you claim he let Windu back into the fight, Windu was well out of reach of Sidious's FULLY OUTSTRETCHED ARM, he was not within striking distance, the camera angle makes it look like he is closer.

😂 Good man.

Right.
Now pay as much attention to Mace's stance at the same time.
Now... are you telling me, that with the speed demonstrated throughout by Sidious that he couldnt have gone forward 6 inches...?

Mace'd have been a dead man.
Look also at Palps... Times his "Loss" for Anakins' arrival perfectly. He is pretending to be a victim/scared by what looks like a threatening Windu to Anakin, for Anakin's sake.
Dudes manipulating the whole thing.
It was the only way to gain Anakin's defence.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Explain to me why, after thousands of SW debates with hundreds of people over the years, after countless articles and books, after the movies, after umpteen George Lucas interviews has anyone ever implied that physical strength can counter the force? Have you ever seen someone say "Hey, if someone if physically stronger than another person, they can counter the force?" Do you even begin to fathom now silly that sounds?

Originally posted by Bardock42

Explain to me why, after thousands of SW debates with hundreds of people over the years, after countless articles and books, after the movies, after umpteen George Lucas interviews has anyone ever implied that physical strength can counter the force? Have you ever seen someone say "Hey, if someone if physically stronger than another person, they can counter the force?" Do you even begin to fathom now silly that sounds?

Is there a reason why you said the same exact thing I did?

And hey, you are the one implying that a physically stronger person can resist the force, not me.

Silly, doesn't prove a thing. And, including EU, non frce user best Jedi on multiple occassions. Spider-Man can, too, if they can.

If Jango can go toe to toe with Obi Wan...and he can, then Spider Man can ten times over.

EU means shit here.

Obi Wan was facing Jango Fett AND the Slave 1, if it had been just Jango, Jango would never have made it off Kamino.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
😂 Good man.

Right.

Are you telling me, that with the speed demonstrated throughout by Sidious that he couldnt have gone forward 6 inches...?

Mace'd have been a dead man.
Look also at Palps... Times his "Loss" for Anakins' arrival perfectly. He is pretending to be a victim/scared by what looks like a threatening Windu to Anakin, for Anakin's sake.
Dudes manipulating the whole thing.
It was the only way to gain Anakin's defence.

Hard to say if it was 6inches or not. And Mace was backing away, he was always well out of reach of Sidious.

He already had Anakin, he had Anakin when he said he could save Padme. Sidious tried in vain to beat Windu, and, when Anakin showed up, he turned on the waterworks and spouted more "I can save the one you love" bullshit. It was a last ditch effort to save his life, and, fortunately for Sidious, Anakin was weak willed enough to buy it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Is there a reason why you said the same exact thing I did?

And hey, you are the one implying that a physically stronger person can resist the force, not me.

EU means shit here.

Obi Wan was facing Jango Fett AND the Slave 1, if it had been just Jango, Jango would never have made it off Kamino.

Quoting error.

And that's not really supported. Jango carried his own weight for most of the fight, while Boba got the Slave 1 ready to take of.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh your one of the people blind to the moment wahere he let Mace off the hook...?
Since you clearly need reminding, watch the scene again:

Watch for the bit where Palapatine has his sabre within striking range of Maces throat. Mace is clearly caught unawares as his last move has left his center line way open (Arms outstretched) Looking down at the blade ina blatant "F**k! I didnt seee that..." fashion.
Mace is DEFENSELESS at that point.
There is so much supporting this argument that only an imbecile would arrogantly pronounce it as not happening.

Palpatine allows Mace back into the fight.
Dicks cant see it.

You're...not serious, are you?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Quoting error.

And that's not really supported. Jango carried his own weight for most of the fight, while Boba got the Slave 1 ready to take of.

Jango was in full mandalorian armor, and Obi Wan had been relieved of his saber. Jango only really had one moment, when he head butted Obi Wan.

And we all saw what happened when he tried to drag Obi Wan around with his fibercord.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're...not serious, are you?
He indeed is haermm

Now... are you telling me, that with the speed demonstrated throughout by Sidious that he couldnt have gone forward 6 inches...?

Actually... no. It's a common mistake made by inexperienced swordsman. Sideous had his lightsaber a few inches away, but, he had overextended himself. In order to move forward six inches he would have had to take another step forward, which could have proved fatal if Mace maneuvered correctly.

Regardless, George Lucas, THE MAN, himself, has already stated that Mace "overpowered" Sideous in the duel. He won fair and square.

Mhm. I was wondering when you would show up haermm

I don't intend to become actively involved in this thread. I don't like it's set-up and I don't like the way the debates between people in this sub-forum progress in general. It, like the OTF, has become really heated for stupid reasons.

Yeah, the setup is whack, especially giving spidey force powers.

Not that so much as the fact that in this forum A-Level canon is basically ignored when it comes to Star Wars. Not including EU is realistic, but ignoring Movie level canon on the basis that it's not a movie is something else entirely.