Spider-man and The Jedi Order

Started by Placidity39 pages

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Right, he force holds Obi Wan, then ***** kicks Annie, then hurls Obi Wan across the room like he was a rag doll. Even better.

Spidey can counter with force push? WTF are you talking about?

Read my previous post about the webbing.

The first response was for MY TOPIC. So go to page 1 and read my original post.

Originally posted by Robtard
You box, if one boxer is clearly quicker than the other, does that boxer generally push the fight or does he sit back and defend/counter?

To further the point, if both boxers have the ability to KO in the first hit, who would win, the boxer who can react faster/first or the slower guy?

1) Countering, generally. For they have the reaction speed to see it coming and meet it appropriately. The slow powerful guy can be avoided. Although when the faster one pushes forward (especially at the last ten call) they could use that extra speed to do lots of damage in and out without getting countered too much themselves.
As you say, the style of the other guy has to be taken into account too.
Ali backed of and countered against Liston, Foreman, most of the three Frazier fights... Yet in others, Brian London, Floyd Patterson, Jerry Quarry, Cleaveland Williams he came forward more.

2) Faster/first. 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This is where a Jedi/Sith use their incredible sense of precog. They can not only sense an attack, but can sense where it is coming from and what form it will take.

A Jedi will likely be defensive. As Spidey nears to attack, the Jedi will know if it is gonna be a punck or a kick, and where it will be aimed. They will have more than enough time to dodge and slice off a spider limb, or use a force attack.

A Sith? hell, Spidey is in even worse shape. They are gonna be more on the offensive, holding nothing back, able to do all that a Jedi does, but even more violently.

And if it is a web attack, come on. If Gobby can tear webs to shit, surely a saber can render them to ashes.

Be realistic, dude.

The precog that got em so stuffed in the Clone wars and purge, you mean...?

Spider NEARS to attack...? Well thats a big assumption.

Are they gonna WANNA remove webbing from their eyes ears nose etc with a lightsbare...? Could be a bit dodgy.

Originally posted by Robtard
As always, you're a clown. I already said Spider-man would lose given the Jedi had a decent range of distance from Spider-man where they could execute a Force attack first.

I'm done though, as it is clearly impossible to have an honest debate when a SW character is involved.

Actually, I was thinking that you think your spiderbates could never lose. Just the opposite of your perspective. Odd.

You clearly have a hard-on for the worst PIS moment in all three of the movies. (Because the director wrote himself straight into a hole that anyone with half a brain would be able to figure out was rather stupid.) Spiderman can do no wrong in your eyes.

I would give close combat to a some Jedi knights vs. Spiderman. That's just being realistic.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Vader never choked anybody across a whole galaxy in the movies.

Sorry for the pool pissing. Nothing personal.

It was absurd hyperbole in the most comical way. However, he did force choke Admiral Kendal Ozzel over a viewing screen.

That's right, pwned, newb.

He choked a guy who was on a monitor.

He was on the same ship, dillweed. 😛

The Executor. "Oh my goawwwwwd youre sooooo like Pwned n stuff.
Hurk hurk hurk.... "🙄

Originally posted by dadudemon
Actually, I was thinking that you think your spiderbates could never lose. Just the opposite of your perspective. Odd.

You clearly have a hard-on for the worst PIS moment in all three of the movies. (Because the director wrote himself straight into a hole that anyone with half a brain would be able to figure out was rather stupid.) Spiderman can do no wrong in your eyes.

Again, I already said how he could lose and done so on multiple times, your fault for not paying attention.

How exactly is that PIS when it depicts his powers like they are in the comic books and the movie is based off the comic books?

You'll dismiss something that is seen on film in regards to Spider-man, yet amp-up the SW characters with things not seen strictly in the films. The Spider-man scene is there and it's obvious what it was supposed to depict, ie his powers.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Are they gonna WANNA remove webbing from their eyes ears nose etc with a lightsbare...? Could be a bit dodgy.

LOL, dude..

Watch the beginning of Ep. III when Anakin frees Palpatine form his shackles. Anakin also VERY precisely killed that poisonous centipede things from off of Amadala's bed without even saber toasting the blanket.

Yes, THAT precise. 😐

And that wouldn't even occur because the Jedi would use form IV and easily dodge the webbing. 😐

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He was on the same ship, dillweed. 😛

Thanks for telling me what I already know. 😐

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The Executor. "Oh my goawwwwwd youre sooooo like Pwned n stuff.
Hurk hurk hurk.... "🙄

😆

It's about time someone stops taking this so seriously.

That was the one with the highest midichlorean count.

I'd like to see how much face a lesser Jedi would leave her with.

Originally posted by Placidity
The first response was for MY TOPIC. So go to page 1 and read my original post.
And? Spidey cannot wield the force, yet you just stated he can counter with force push.

Explain.

Originally posted by Robtard
Again, I already said how he could lose and done so on multiple times, your fault for not paying attention.

Do you want a round of applause or something?

Originally posted by Robtard
How exactly is that PIS when it depicts his powers like they are in the comic books and the movie is based off the comic books?

ZOMG! Liek a totally, man. durr

Not. 😐

Originally posted by Robtard
You'll dismiss something that is seen on film in regards to Spider-man, yet amp-up the SW characters with things not seen strictly in the films.

🤨

Uh, no.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Spider-man scene is there and it's obvious what it was supposed to depict, ie his powers.

Uh, no. It was NOT intended as PIS by the director but that's exactly what it ended up being. It was meant for a "WTF! THAT'S AWESOME" moment to appeal to the viewer...part of the thing that made Spiderman so awesome. It's the same bullshit that people loved in Karate kid, van Damme, Stallone, etc. movies.

Do you see why I'm so awesome, now? You can't even touch the pleat on my pants.

Edit- Dooku force choked Obi Wan and held him in the air. That was awesome.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thanks for telling me what I already know. 😐

😆

It's about time someone stops taking this so seriously.

Well why with the Galaxy assertion, huh? 😛

Im not taking you seriously.

I was just parodising the "pwned" phrase useage, unless you were using it ironically, it deserved a little slaughtering..

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
That was the one with the highest midichlorean count.

I'd like to see how much face a lesser Jedi would leave her with.

😆

That's par for any jedi knight, though.

Well, if it were me, I would have cut the blanket and her clothes off with perfect precision and used the force to yank it all off in one fell swoop.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well why with the Galaxy assertion, huh? 😛

It's like saying you parked in BFE.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Im not taking you seriously.

I was just parodising the "pwned" phrase useage, unless you were using it ironically, it deserved a little slaughtering..

You had better not take me seriously. Almost all of the versus scenarios usually have clear cut winners and it's debated because people are fanboys.

Nah...I was being immature for the sake of humor. It makes me laugh to pwn newbs on teh internetz.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The precog that got em so stuffed in the Clone wars and purge, you mean...?
How many times must I explain this.....The Jedi were betrayed by their ALLIES. They were engaged in battle. Obi Wan, Ki Adi Mundi, Plo Koon, Adi Gallia, their attention was elsewhere. Look at Yoda, he was just chillin', he sensed the attack and BAM he pwned.

A Jedi/Sith against Spidey will focus all of their attention on Spidey as an ENEMY.

Get it? Jeez.....

Spider NEARS to attack...? Well thats a big assumption.
Well he is gonna attack from afar or up close, two choices.

Are they gonna WANNA remove webbing from their eyes ears nose etc with a lightsbare...? Could be a bit dodgy.
PRECOG PRECOG PRECOG...A Jedi/Sith will SENSE the web attack and either force push the webbing away or burn it out of the air. Or even very EASILY aim it back at Spidey.

BFE haermm I haven't heard that one in a while.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How many times must I explain this.....The Jedi were betrayed by their ALLIES. They were engaged in battle. Obi Wan, Ki Adi Mundi, Plo Koon, Adi Gallia, their attention was elsewhere. Look at Yoda, he was just chillin', he sensed the attack and BAM he pwned.

A Jedi/Sith against Spidey will focus all of their attention on Spidey as an ENEMY.

Get it? Jeez.....

Well he is gonna attack from afar or up close, two choices.

PRECOG PRECOG PRECOG...A Jedi/Sith will SENSE the web attack and either force push the webbing away or burn it out of the air. Or even very EASILY aim it back at Spidey.

Well they shoulda still seen it coming, shouldn't they...?
Yoda could.

Others couldnt because its not something they were all strong with.

As for your last point, such as it is, its purely your postulation, nothing more.
Besides they seem to only sense the future THAT effectively when calm.... at peace.
IE not in the middle of a fight.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well they shoulda still seen it coming, shouldn't they...?
Yoda could.

Others couldnt because its not something they were all strong with.

As for your last point, such as it is, its purely your postulation, nothing more.
Besides they seem to only sense the future THAT effectively when calm.... at peace.
IE not in the middle of a fight.

The fighting precog and seeing the future are different force powers.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well they shoulda still seen it coming, shouldn't they...?
Yoda could.
Listen to me very closely..........

Yoda....was....not....in...battle.....

Yoda....was....just...standing...there....

The...other...Jedi.....were....engaged...in...battle.....

Their.....attention....was...elsewhere.....

A Jedi/Sith....against....spidey....will....focus...only....on...spidey....as....an....enemy.....

As for your last point, such as it is, its purely your postulation, nothing more.
Besides they seem to only sense the future THAT effectively when calm.... at peace.
IE not in the middle of a fight.
They can sense the FUTURE when calm, when at peace. When in battle, they sense where an attack is coming from.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The fighting precog and seeing the future are different force powers.
He knows, he's just arguing for the sake of arguing.

He's like a car running on fumes, sputtering, coughing, eventually coming to a stall on the side of the road.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Listen to me very closely..........

Yoda....was....not....in...battle.....

Yoda....was....just...standing...there....

The...other...Jedi.....were....engaged...in...battle.....

Their.....attention....was...elsewhere.....

A Jedi/Sith....against....spidey....will....focus...only....on...spidey....as....an....enemy.....

They can sense the FUTURE when calm, when at peace. When in battle, they sense where an attack is coming from.

Well not neccesarily. Same technique, smaller more immediate aniticipation with it in combat. Its all through the force, baby.

The.... girl.... on....... the......... speeder..bike...wasn't....doing..shit.
She....was...just.....looking forward and riding.

The fit looking twilek....she...was...just....walking...forwards...exploring....not...battling.