Ozymandias vs. Spiderman.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
1. He has no prep here. Spider-Man took giant Sandman's onslaught without losing conscious. Veidt couldn't do the same.

Why would you take away Ozy's greatest asset?

Ozy would certainly take time prepping before even remotely approaching Sandman.

He would extort all info for how Sandman was created.

He would reverse engineer the process, or figure out some other way of disrupting Sandman from being able reconstitute him self.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
2. They may be, but remember this isn't a thug wielding a gun which Veidt can predict where the bullet will be shot and end up. Ock's arms move at his speed of thought and Spider-Man tanked and dodged them numerous times.

That wasn't a thug. That was a highered assassin.

Spiderman was also captured and hit several times by them. Those arms move much too slow for Ozy.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Why would you take away Ozy's greatest asset? 2. That wasn't a thug. That was a highered assassin.

1. 🙄 This is a streetfight unless prep is specified. You didn't specify any prep in the opening post.
2. No, he was the equivalent of a thug. Veidt paid an employee to kill someone. He was no Bullseye or James Bond. If he were noteworthy he'd bring something better than a revolver to the building.

Technically he was an assassin, yes, but you make it sound like he was highly trained/skilled.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
1. 🙄 This is a streetfight unless prep is specified. You didn't specify any prep in the opening post.

We were referring to Sandman and my post was referring to Sandman, not Spiderman.

I didn't give Ozy prep for this because it would make it unfair for Spiderman. However, as I pointed out in the thread, not giving Ozy his prep is really an outright gimp of Ozy's greatest asset.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
2. No, he was the equivalent of a thug. Veidt paid an employee to kill someone. He was no Bullseye or James Bond. If he were noteworthy he'd bring something better than a revolver to the building.

Technically he was an assassin, yes, but you make it sound like he was highly trained/skilled.

Better than a thug. Specifically, an assassin.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. We were referring to Sandman and my post was referring to Sandman, not Spiderman.
2. Better than a thug. Specifically, an assassin.

Gotta love how anyone thinks Ozymandias would even consider going head to head with Spiderman. He would out-think him and catch him in some exceptionally elaborate scheme similar to what he tried to do with Dr Manhattan and only partially suceeded (And Manhattan is far superior to Spiderman)

Originally posted by jaden101
Gotta love how anyone thinks Ozymandias would even consider going head to head with Spiderman. He would out-think him and catch him in some exceptionally elaborate scheme similar to what he tried to do with Dr Manhattan and only partially suceeded (And Manhattan is far superior to Spiderman)

He only messed up because he didn't account for Manhatten to be able to reconstitute himself. By all his "numbers" and "math", it should have worked, and it did. It's just that, Manhatten pulled himself together again...something that doesn't make sense unless a soul exists.

And, no, Ozy would't mess up. Not even close.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
1. My point was that a weakened Spider-Man took Sandman's punches while lying down defenseless. Veidt couldn't do the same so how he'll knock Spider-Man out is beyond me.

This is a non-sequitor argument.

How could spiderman be knocked out when not hit in the head?

But that's not this thread. You set this up as a streetfight in a warehouse. Nowhere did you specify prep. Veidt carries no notable equipment like Batman or Nite Owl to aid him here. Just his abilities and it just so happens that Spider-Man is superior.

Like I said, Watchmen(minus Manhatten of course) vs Spider-Man would be a better fight IMO.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
But that's not this thread. You set this up as a streetfight in a warehouse. Nowhere did you specify prep. Veidt carries no notable equipment like Batman or Nite Owl to aid him here. Just his abilities and it just so happens that Spider-Man is superior.

I'm not sure what the above is talking about. Veidt is strong enough, fast enough, has the reaction speed, to beat the crap outta Spiderman. Certainly knock him out.

Ozy versus a Jedi. Ozy. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
Certainly knock him out.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Bullshit. No way in hell he can produce enough force to punch at the level of what giant Sandman was doing. 😬

Sandman wasn't hitting PP in the head, though.

You kind of...have to hit someone in the head, or jerk their body around hard enough to cause the same intertial force differential, to cause a person to "get knocked out".

How about a grenade to the face?

or 1:28 - 1:39

YouTube video

And Sandman did pound his head.

Originally posted by Placidity
How about a grenade to the face?

You showed up to the game a bit late. We have long since talked about this grenade.

Or how about Venom smashing Peter in the head with a steel girder, several times.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You showed up to the game a bit late. We have long since talked about this grenade.

talking about it doesn't mean anything.

Care to address the other points then?

Originally posted by Placidity
Or how about Venom smashing Peter in the head with a steel girder, several times.

Yup. I will later. I can't watch youtube, I don't have the movies, and I don't feel like feeding a troll.

However, Ozy still knocks parker the eff out. This is fact.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yup. I will later. I can't watch youtube, I don't have the movies, and I don't feel like feeding a troll.

However, Ozy still knocks parker the eff out. This is fact.

Lol Didn't think you could give a real response. Still continuing with your typical troll posts.

And there hasn't been any real (or any at all) discussion of the grenade thing I was talking about.

Ozy doesn't knock Peter out. Peter kills Ozy. This is fact.

Originally posted by Placidity
Lol Didn't think you could give a real response. Still continuing with your typical troll posts.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Placidity
And there hasn't been any real (or any at all) discussion of the grenade thing I was talking about.

Ozy doesn't knock Peter out. Peter kills Ozy. This is fact.

The discussion was: petter isn't indestructable. He takes damage. He got his a** handed to him by Goblin. Goblin just did the ol' "own weapons kill me when I monologed" BS.

And, no.

Ozy is faster, smarter, reacts faster, and is a much better fighter. Fact.

His strength is more than enough for Spiderman because spidey is affected by human punches.

However, you and everyone else on this board can incorrectly believe that Ozy loses.

I gimped Ozy for this fight, big time. It proves how much of Spiderman fanboys everyone is.