Originally posted by Juntaibut has he cross the universe in seconds & has he moved so fast he coud see copies of himself?
Not really, imo. Superman has those crossing the universe and crossing galaxies feats too.
Originally posted by Zeuodinif u can travel fast then u can move fast, dunno da t makes sense dont it
I didn't know surfer could fight as well as Superman in physical combat. Also didn't know Surfer had fast limb speed. Show me please.
Originally posted by Spire
And the end result was?Regardless, just more fun from age that all Thor scans seem to come from.
Also, there is Mjolnir and the Pittsburgh steel mill...
Thor reforging Mjolnir in like 15 minutes was hilarious, but it goes against everything from 60s to 00s. The Enchanters messing up Mjolnir is a far cry from Superman being able to do, and they're not really comparable. Mjolnir can always absorb heat, the only reason they can do that is because of their unique control over enchanted weapons....
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Only, the 70s is not the age all Thor scans do or seem to come from 😐Thor reforging Mjolnir in like 15 minutes was hilarious, but it goes against everything from 60s to 00s. The Enchanters messing up Mjolnir is a far cry from Superman being able to do, and they're not really comparable. Mjolnir can always absorb heat, the only reason they can do that is because of their unique control over enchanted weapons....
It still resulted in it being to hot for Thor to touch.
Originally posted by SoulDevourerHuh? If you can travel that fast you can move that fast? that does not compute. Dr. light can travel at light speed, but I'll be damned if she could do a fist fight at those speeds.
but has he cross the universe in seconds & has he moved so fast he coud see copies of himself?
if u can travel fast then u can move fast, dunno da t makes sense dont it
Originally posted by Kris BlazeSuperman just heated up an enchanted ax. what are you talking about?
Only, the 70s is not the age all Thor scans do or seem to come from 😐Thor reforging Mjolnir in like 15 minutes was hilarious, but it goes against everything from 60s to 00s. The Enchanters messing up Mjolnir is a far cry from Superman being able to do, and they're not really comparable. Mjolnir can always absorb heat, the only reason they can do that is because of their unique control over enchanted weapons....
Originally posted by SpireSo you admit to being completely and utterly biased?
I don't care about any of that, as context obviously separates the two feats.I was just asking about the Thor feat.
What makes you think he was resisting infinite weight?
Originally posted by SpireThor's attention was elsewhere as was Superman's. Superman's jaw was shattered. Thor was ko'd by someone with uber skill. Now if I were a smart man and I am I'd rather my character have Thor's showing than Superman's which was in his own book which makes it all the worse.
Um, ok.It's really not an issue because if his attention was elsewhere it could happen. So it brings us back to all you showed was Superman can be hurt.
However, Thor still gets dropped from a nerve strike. Something I'm guessing most people have never seen.
Originally posted by JuntaiAre you kidding me? I absolutely love Superman fans. They just never pick and choose what it is they want to accept from a particular story. It's absolutely hilarious how you accept that statement but write off Superman's statement immediately after koing Thor. It's a treat.
Without even going into the rest of that, apparently you didn't understand the story and are just trying to scrape away anything you can to make you feel good about Thor's performance in the crossover -- It was made quite clear in context, and in writing.. . .Superman lowered his level to fight Thor, then turned the dials up to 11. Not the other way around.
Originally posted by JuntaiMore wishful thinking. Both turned it up a notch. Neither was trying to kill the other though. Both had taken damage and Thor was ran through hv like it was a cool breeze. The thing I have a problem with is the fact he dropped his guard when he isn't the first one to stop a hammer strike. That's the only reason Supes won this close fight. To perceive him as clearly superior is only picking and choosing what it is you want to accept from this crossover.
They both hold back, but the clear case in point that Thor was turning it up as Superman made him scream in pain with a shot of heat vision. .he knew he had a real opponent. . . and he put a ton of OOMPH into his shot, that was meant to be an -ending blow-. He was absolutely befuddled, astonished, because the 'mightiest in the nine worlds could not' have been as powerful as Superman was.If he was throwing that half-assed, he wouldn't have acted like that. He was putting what he had into it. But Superman's dials go higher.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankExactly. Both were still acting as heroes do putting a lot of effort into it, but they weren't out trying to murder the other to get the job done.
I think it's obvious that while both characters were trying to win, neither had unleashed their full power or strength. Not by a longshot 😬
Originally posted by JuntaiLOL. Superman was bested by and then given another chance by Vision's actions. He was done and that was after he was given Cap's shield. So with Cap's shield and Thor's hammer because let's face it he wasn't powerful enough to break the shield on his own he broke open the shield. Hawkeye saved the day not Superman despite Vision,s help, America's shield, and Thor's hammer.
Him hitting Superman a few times doesn't prove anything. Superman purposely takes hits to let him know how hard he has to fight. He's mentioned this several times.Superman has a lot of peers... until he turns it up. 😉
Wonderwoman, Captain Marvel, Martian Manhunter, etc, all Superman peers.
End of the day though when its on the line?
He's far more formidable than any of them. Thunder God included.As evidenced in you know, a couple of stories... Final Crisis... Infinite Crisis... COIE... Our Worlds at War... New Maps of Hell... even Elseworld stories like Kingdom Come... Darkside Superman...
.. . wait a minute, didn't JLA/Avengers come to a conclusion with Thor passing on his hammer to someone more formidable to defeat the foes and crack open a force-field?
Surely he could have done that himself! He's Superman's physical peer!
I guess you're right, Thor was clearly holding back and not trying to end the fight, that's why his eyes bugged out like a Looney Tunes character when he realized how powerful Superman was, and even issues later was still deep in thought over it. Even knew that Superman was their last chance.
Supes couldn't pick up Thor's hammer off the ground at the end of the story when the crisis was over by the by.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaThor was hit with hv blasts immediately before the hammer block. If you are fighting someone and taking damage throughout a fight and running through energy blasts common sense tells you that you are being weakened to some degree anyways. Thor dropped his guard despite this feat happening over 20 years ago. LOL. I guess Thor forgot about that instance.
Yes, Superman was knocked on his ass. By [b]Mjolnir. Which you ommited in your first post, making it seem as if they went blow for blow and Thor eventually knocked him down. Which is what you're doing again. Thor using Mjolnir to knock Superman through the forrest has nothing to do with their strength. Superman, catching his hammer with one-hand from that position and making Thor shit his pants does.So because Superman used Heat Vision it means that he is physically inferior to Thor ? That being idiotic aside, it's funny how it was Thor who first hit Superman with Mjolnir/Energy attack after getting in a punch-out with Superman. Thor being distracted by Superman's strength is the reason Superman managed to knock him out ? Holy shit, Quanchi is that you?. You sly dog, making two accounts.
Curses, Thor knocked Superman on his ass with a Mjolnir throw to the face in the first issus. Foiled yet again! This is a definite showing for Thor being superior to Superman in strength!
Yes, clearly the HV substantially affected Thor's Mjolnir strike, which is why he was awed at Superman being able to catch it even going as far as saying that the mightiest in nine worlds cannot do it, only to be one-punched by Superman moments later.
Hell, Spiderman probably could have caught it, and in the moments of distraction following Thor being shocked at Spiderman stopping his substantially affected Mjolnir strike, use a web-shot to knock him out.
I'm definitley not going to search for the interview. You're just not worth anything but being made fun of.
Man, Superman really said that Captain Marvel has an edge in a toe to toe fight due to his magic nature ?!?! It's like.. so.. irrelevant to what we're discussing. 😂
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You really can't keep up with what's being argued can you ? What does Captain Marvel having an edge on Superman due to being able to exploit his weakness have to do my counter-argument, which is that Superman had an orgasm to feeling Captain Marvel's (a peer) power too, which is why the Mjolnir "Orgasm feeling" point is rendered null ? Which, in turn, has nothing to do with what is the initial strength-related discussion.
Kurt Busiek pointing out that it's a hyperbole and using an analogy with a real-life hyperbole means that the analogy actually meant this was Superman's toughest fight ? Ah, obviously. 😂
Again with the "Superman used HV thus he is not physically superior to Thor" when it was Thor who first used Mjolnir when going blow for blow with Superman ?
I got bored of making fun of you through your first wall of text, so you'll have to excuse me for not adressing the same point twice. [/B]
Also it isn't a one punch if it's at the end of a fight and he has punched you prior along with hv blasted you.
I mean oh noes it's philosophia he always gives marvel characters the wins and never trolls respect threads or anything. Let it go. Thor takes the majority against Superman. One close fight doesn't change that.
Originally posted by JuntaiNo, that isn't clear at all. In your mind it is because you are a superman fan. He won a close matchup and lipserviced Thor immediately afterwards. To suggest he was superior to Thor is only seeing what you want to see imo.
In all cases of that story, Superman was clearly written as Thor's superior from beginning to end. Was Superman infallible? No. But to suggest Thor was his equal here clearly takes rose colored viking helmet shaped glasses, evidenced in this post, and your others. Even Thor didn't see it the same.
Originally posted by ZeuodinGladiator.
NO. Thor can not deal with Superspeed, on Superman's level with Superman level strength.
