Thor AND Wonder Woman vs Superman and Captain Marvel

Originally posted by Zeuodin
His freeze Breath? Are you kidding me? She's resisted Killer Frost who Owns Superman's freeze breath. And she can EASILY Block any and all of Superman's projectile powers. The only reason he even got the freeze breath out on her is because she was trying to reason with him. Also, they fought in space which is colder than anything that can be produced by Superman while in Earth's atmosphere and she was FINE. Also, Wonder Woman is faster than Superman in combat. He just can't do what she does. It's her thing to not only move fast but with pin point accuracy block and strike.

- Space is about -300- -500 C if you think Superman's breath isn't as colder, you need help man
- She can only block a few of his projected attacks. Those that have an area of effect will hit her. He can make his Heat Vision have a bigger range, this makes her bracer's irrelevent
- You are also changing your statement now, first it was
So it would be smart to have Wonder Woman, who's reflext speed is Faster than Superman's combat speed

NOW

lso, Wonder Woman is faster than Superman in combat.

Two different things. Either way, they are both wrong. That was never stated. The only thing that was ever stated is that her reflex speed> his reflex speed

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You only answered a few questions that I asked, but I am not going ask again.

- Space is about -300- -500 C if you think Superman's breath isn't as colder, you need help man
- She can only block a few of his projected attacks. Those that have an area of effect will hit her. He can make his Heat Vision have a bigger range, this makes her bracer's irrelevent
- You are also changing your statement now, first it was
So it would be smart to have Wonder Woman, who's reflext speed is Faster than Superman's combat speed

NOW

lso, Wonder Woman is faster than Superman in combat.

Two different things. Either way, they are both wrong. That was never stated. The only thing that was ever stated is that her reflex speed> his reflex speed

She can also block his biggest wide area affect attack like so,
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/02/22/1228874_882x1264.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/02/22/1228873_887x1260.jpg

She doesn't even have to fight him, just keep him busy. And she can fight him if she wants. I can post fights with beings Similiar to him where she has done well.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I'm just trying to understand how Ultraman actually -read- the book of infinite pages.

Originally posted by Galan007
the same way superman/marvel read through it: by utilizing the ultima thule's infinite memory capacity.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You only answered a few questions that I asked, but I am not going ask again.

- Space is about -300- -500 C if you think Superman's breath isn't as colder, you need help man
- She can only block a few of his projected attacks. Those that have an area of effect will hit her. He can make his Heat Vision have a bigger range, this makes her bracer's irrelevent
- You are also changing your statement now, first it was
So it would be smart to have Wonder Woman, who's reflext speed is Faster than Superman's combat speed

NOW

lso, Wonder Woman is faster than Superman in combat.

Two different things. Either way, they are both wrong. That was never stated. The only thing that was ever stated is that her reflex speed> his reflex speed

Diana *can* block area effect energy attacks, via her Aegis defense.

And it has been referenced before that Diana's combat speed is faster than Superman's (not by much, but an edge, just as he is stronger than her, but not by any great margin); the most recent reference I am aware of was in the most recent JL fight with Amazo (around issues 24-28), where when Diana is fighting Amazo by herself, after saving Clark from Amazo's red-solar vision, and they are brawling, she wordboxes, thinking "Hera he's fast -- faster than Clark" -- Amazo dodges her punch from a prone position and hits her back-- "-- fast as me..." (as he had then adapted her speed to fight her with).

I might be misunderstanding your view on her speed; if so, just ignore that part...

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yes, dur me. I saw that Phil mentioned it earlier.
Lifting Infinite Pages should still be impossible.

Originally posted by Spire
In other words, you're a shitty true Thor fan and you posted scans showing Superman getting hurt. Something we already knew.

Supes can have his jaw broken and his throat slashed. I could post scans of him being ko'd out because he was taken out by surprise.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thor had the Odin force when he fought Rulk, and 😂 at having to use that shitfest of a comic as a example of Thor being better second time round.

Take Durok for instance. Take Gladiator for instance. These are other examples of Thor owning these guys with his back up against the wall and doing much better.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If that was his intention, he would have said so. The way he presented it seemed like just another tactic that he thinks would work on Superman, thus why he grouped it with Wonder Woman's tiara throw.

The direct confrontation is the most decisive evidence, even if not admissable on the forum. If we start going all argument-for-argument, you know that wouldn't go nowhere considering some of the "logic fueled" arguments used for Thor that I just don't have the patience for ("Thor overcoming infinite gravity!" "Thor withstanding a score of planets!" Silver Age hyperboles rule!).

How didn't you get that? Everyone else did. One other thing you didn't get was that WW is in this thread. Your response was that of

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Imo, it's your opinion if Thor will KIll or even KO Superman with that Hammer Toss
When has CM hurt Superman badly with his Magic Attack. If you are thinking of the lighting when he shouts Shazam, it's completely different.
I don't know where you got the Bs that WW 's reflex speed is faster then his combat speed.
All WW can do against CM or Superman is try and hold them out. Superman has proven over and over that he is the more superior in almost every category. Heck, she admitted it at well.
When has lighting depowered Marvel before?

You talk as if WW and Thor are the only ones with strategy. Superman knows that Marvel is resistant towards magic so he'll send him towards Thor. Superman knows that WW doesn't really have any actual defense against his freeze breath. He'll use it again and again if need be.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch your mouth. LOL. You seem to be getting all worked up again.

Supes can have his jaw broken and his throat slashed. I could post scans of him being ko'd out because he was taken out by surprise.

That's why I said he had the same powers for both fights with Rulk. The end result was much different the second time around.

Take Durok for instance. Take Gladiator for instance. These are other examples of Thor owning these guys with his back up against the wall and doing much better.

You just didn't get it. It's common sense that Thor wasn't using anywhere near his full power when he just previously traded blows with Airwalker, but the moment he realized it was a machine he killed him with one hammer shot.

How didn't you get that? Everyone else did. One other thing you didn't get was that WW is in this thread. Your response was that of WW's reflexes are greater than Superman's. It's her strength that isn't up to per along with her durability.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
ug.

Split in an arena. In a comic this would be an awesome showdown which could go either way depending on environmental factors.

Thor and Wonder woman 7/10.

Wonderwoman hold off Supes and Thor beats Captain marvel and sit back while supes and wonder woman fight.

Supes and Wonderwoman could go either way but IF supes win he would be highly fatigued while thor would be rested and thor would finish the fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor and Wonder woman 7/10.

Wonderwoman hold off Supes and Thor beats Captain marvel and sit back while supes and wonder woman fight.

Supes and Wonderwoman could go either way but IF supes win he would be highly fatigued while thor would be rested and thor would finish the fight.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I honestly think that Captain Marvel should beat Thor if it was a one on one encounter. He's like Superman minus most of the weaknesses.

I dont give Thor the edge over superman due to magic weakness (because I dont consider that a true weakness of supes anyway), I give thor the edge against supes because he's just generally more powerful than him and since Supes=Captain marvel (you get my point).

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I honestly think that Captain Marvel should beat Thor if it was a one on one encounter. He's like Superman minus most of the weaknesses.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I honestly think that Captain Marvel should beat Thor if it was a one on one encounter. He's like Superman minus most of the weaknesses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he most certainly is not. While Superman and Captain Marvel match up well against one another Supes is still seen as superior imo.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sure but not for any good reason other than the fact he's DC's Golden Boy and must win in the end.
Powerwise they're the same, Cap just has fewer weaknesses.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sure but not for any good reason other than the fact he's DC's Golden Boy and must win in the end.
Powerwise they're the same, Cap just has fewer weaknesses.

I agree with this and it has been shown to many times that they are equals.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Reason why most people think Superman wins any encounters against Thor is because of his speed. Captain Marvel does not have those feast. Thor would probably trash him.

Didnt superman admit on numerous of occasions that captain marvel is faster?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree. If you ask anyone from dc they will tell you superman despite all that. I just see Superman doing better in most situations than CM. In dc everyone turns to Superman. It's a shame they don't use Captain Marvel more.