Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So like I said Superman was knocked on his ass by Thor. Depending on the writer Thor does slightly hit harder with Mjolnir, but that’s about it. I don’t know Busiek’s stance on this particular matter.So they went toe to toe, with Superman being knocked on his ass. Superman then resorts to heat vision which clearly affected Thor to an extent. Superman’s strength is astonishing. Just not astonishing enough to go toe to toe with Thor apparently without resorting to other attacks to clearly wear him down, and then while Thor is surprised/distracted (Thor being surprised that Superman can catch his hammer is what distracted him if you must know.), Superman barely manages to knock Thor out after wading through a dose of a pissed off Superman’s heat vision.
And it’s not the first time Superman was knocked on his ass by Thor. In the before their fight Thor put Superman down and hurt him to the point he was cradling his head with a single throw. Superman then resorts to attacking Thor with Martian Manhunter at the same time and Thor still shrugs it off then apparently knocks out Martian Manhunter (He goes flying into a building with lightning trailing behind him and doesn't appear for 3 more pages when he comes out off the building.)
Notice the fact that before the heat vision, Superman was not doing any significant damage to Thor with his blows, while Thor had knocked Superman on his ass.
Go ahead. I simply recall Busiek using it as a visual interpretation to show the fact that a character was struggling or being hurt.
Yes, clearly Thor was shown to be the physical inferior despite the fact that Thor was clearly getting going toe to toe with Superman and was arguably getting the upper hand, as he put Superman down on his ass twice, and Superman barely manages to put Thor down after the heat vision. That crossover in itself clearly portrays them as physical equals, to the point that a small factor such as heat vision can give either of them the advantage they need to win. Heck, Thor apparently one shots Doomsday in that issue (We see Thor hitting Doomsday and he doesn't' appear for the rest of the event as I recall.). To think that it portrays either as clearly above one another or one superior to the other by some sort of large margin is biased in my opinion, but you’re the dude who thinks Superman has dynamic strength, so why am I not surprised?
Really? What am I forgetting? That’s rich coming from you.
Clearly heat vision substantially affected him physically; to argue otherwise is downright stupid, based on the visual interpretation. Thor is surprised that Superman being able to catch his strike somehow means that the heat vision had no significant effect? Thor was simply shocked at how strong Superman is. Superman being able to catch the hammer strike also doesn’t mean he is clearly the physical superior. Red Norvell stopped a hammer strike as well, and went on to knock Thor out. He is at best Thor’s equal as well based on their later encounters. Heck Thor is even superior based on how they did against the Hulk respectively. Like Thor said to Aquaman. Thor has his measure now. He instinctively brings himself down to match his opponent by the way.
Go ahead. Maybe you’ve read an interview that I haven’t (I take those with a grain of salt by the way.). Biased? LMAO. That’s hilarious coming from you.
I’m simply basing my opinion on the comic. If you think that Thor was not clearly affected by Superman’s heat vision then you’re fooling yourself. And it’s clearly backed up by Thor’s physical reaction to the said heat vision. He was clearly struggling and feeling the heat vision.
You are right though, that Superman speech bubbles indicate anger more than pain in the last phrase.
Superman also said that Marvel has an edge in a toe to toe fight as I recall, but that might have been in reference to his magical nature; I don't recall it clearly. Mjolnir is just a tool for Thor by the way.
Not it clearly wasn’t depicted that Superman is the physical superior. Especially since Superman clearly didn’t only attack Thor physically and resorted to using his other powers such as heat vision. If it was clearly depicted so, Superman wouldn’t have been knocked on his ass like he did whenever he tried to engage Thor toe to toe before the use of heat vision.
One punch? One punch would indicate that Thor was only struck by Superman one time.
“That’s the best meal I’ve ever had”? That analogy is perfect in describing the fact that it was Superman’s toughest fight ever.
Call it hyperbole if you want, but you clearly have no probably using Thor’s statements in your argument yet when I use Superman’s to showcase how tough Thor was, it’s obvious hyperbole. But why am I not surprised? I just flipped through some pages, and you’re hypocritical and biased ass, tried to argue that Superman and Marvel lifting a book of infinite pages was legit while at the same time arguing that Thor resisting and lifting himself up while his weight was multiplied infinitely is hyperbole.
Not just a difficult fight. Apparently his toughest fight.
Do you really believe that Thor resisted infinite weight? Or in your madness did you just forget the whole 'critical thinking' approach?