Originally posted by RobtardThe dementors arent needed, Rob. They merely make it a walk in the park. She was named, not my fault you didnt realize that she can summon them.
And the Dementors, who would be extra players weren't. You also didn't mention them until [b]AFTER your points were destroyed and you needed a spite-angle to win.And Potter isn't some reacts-on-the-fly seasoned warrior, with the reflexes and battle-savvy to match. Yet you tired to gimp that there. [/B]
Oh my....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgiL9wj3Jvw
Is that fiendfyre I see, being cast while Bellatrix is half apparating hundreds of feet above the Burrow? Oh my.....Gee whiz, two death eaters, far away from the flames, and it's controlling and thinking on it's own!!! Wow!!!
Imagine tenish death eaters and Voldemort doing this all at once, and what we have is a wizard stomp, epic stomp, the stomp of all stomps.
I love youtube.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The dementors arent needed, Rob. They merely make it a walk in the park. She was named, not my fault you didnt realize that she can summon them.
Yeah, they would be. But we've been over that.
Listen, if you had intended for the Dementors to be included from the very start, then Sadako with the first post-reply nailed you right, this is a spite-thread, nothing more. So it should have been closed then and there.
Sorry, you can't have your gimp-cake and eat it too, common sense, you know. Either you made a spite-thread on purpose, or you gimped the scenario after you were spanked. Pick.
Nah, I am just proving over and over that the wizards win. If Umbridge knows summoning the dementors will win the battle, why wouldnt she? Wouldnt you, if it were you?
Wizards win? How do the Dementors make the 'wizards win'? They make the Dementors win becuase they can't be beaten, you may as well put God on their side.
And how exactly does she summon the Dementors? Is there a spell? Does she need to send an owl? She's on Coruscant, are there Dementors there? We have no idea how she ordered them about before, for all we know she had to steal a once-only security seal of approval, we don't know if she can replicate.
Also, technically you stated that it would be the 'Hogwarts staff', you never said which incarnation of it though. Forum rules dictate that its therefore the newest one, of which Umbridge is not a member.
How do you think the death eaters and OOTP members appeared out of nowhere at the ministry in OOTP?
Half-apparating. Which is obvious if you actually watch the damn scene.
Nope, as I said, the death eaters and OOTP apparated and half apparated in OOTP, they appeared out of nowhere in the end battle at the ministry.
No, they didn't.
Why didnt Jedi use force speed at the battle of Genosis? Hmm? Same shit.
Actually, they did. They just couldn't show it visibly in the movie because of various reasons. However when asked the exact same question you did, Lucas and co said that they in fact were using FSpeed.
And way to dodge the point btw.
Dude.....The burrow is not on fire, they half apparate through it, it burst into flames, they fly out the other side. There IS no other explanation
Yes there is. I just posted it.
And yeah, the death eaters burst through a solid brick wall, either by brute force or by using a spell, probably the latter.
Relevance?
Well? Why didnt Vader sense the Falcon? INFALLIBLE.
You mean fallible. And yes it is fallible. It can be overwhelmed and it can be overlooked, the users are only human (and Yoda etc), but not to a degree that you'd like to think. For example, Vader was totally focused on Luke in that scene (if I know what the hell you're talking about), so he didn't concentrate on precog. In a face to face battle, Jedi do.
Also, PIS.
Yes, I know how the force works.
If its the same way you know how magic works, you don't know shit. And concession accepted.
Fiendfyre is not regular fire, it is magically enchanted, cursed, and a "gust if wind" will not affect it. It can be altered only by the caster.
Proof? Or are you making stuff up?
The Jedi have no way of winning regardless of how you wanna twist it, the wizards can do too much.
The definition of a spite thread.
Into a wall of flame.
Aha, whatever you say sport. Now bear in mind that this point was originally about how a Jedi could counter Fiendfyre and see how much sense that makes.
And the wizards cant? I can name many scenes where they did.
Again a dodge. My point was that Yoda could snap Volde's neck and dodge a death spell at the same time, which he can.
And the wizards cant? I can name many scenes where they did.
Or if Malfoy has his Hand of Glory. But still, Jedi senses.
Same as lightning? I never said that. They are unblockable, dude.
'Magic is just a form of energy, just like the Force, blah blah'.
Except by tombstones, remember? And Jedi can easily dodge death spells. Particularly when only a few have shown to be able to use it and the fact that not just anyone can use it and that you have to be exceptionally strong to cause anything stronger than a nose-bleed.
Because no other death eaters were shown.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence. The air is not visibly shown on-screen, is it there?
And I just noticed something else. Before the burrow is surrounded by the wall of fiendfyre, you can hear a WHOOSH, then a ball of fiendfyre lands, then it forms a circle around the burrow. Then we can see Bellatrix, hundreds of feet in the air, then she lands. So yeah, she cast and controlled fiendfyre from hundreds of feet in the air, from in the clouds. **** the dementors, the death eaters solo.
Thats your interpretation, there are numerous other's. You have proven nothing.
**** the dementors,
Good, or this argument is done.
Because she was in the thick of a fight, no time to
So she can't just summon them magically? Shame, there goes your last hope, no dementors.
Is that fiendfyre I see, being cast while Bellatrix is half apparating hundreds of feet above the Burrow? Oh my.....Gee whiz, two death eaters, far away from the flames, and it's controlling and thinking on it's own!!! Wow!!!
No, you see Fiendfyre coming from above and then Bellatrix doing the same. You assume the two are linked, when really you can't prove any such thing. Stupid Nice try though.
Read 'em and weep, fellas:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Oh my....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgiL9wj3Jvw
Is that fiendfyre I see, being cast while Bellatrix is half apparating hundreds of feet above the Burrow? Oh my.....Gee whiz, two death eaters, far away from the flames, and it's controlling and thinking on it's own!!! Wow!!!
Imagine tenish death eaters and Voldemort doing this all at once, and what we have is a wizard stomp, epic stomp, the stomp of all stomps.
I love youtube.
The Dementors aren't needed. The OOTP aren't needed. All that is needed is Voldemort, Dumbledore, and the Death Eaters. They half apparate around the temple a few hundred feet in the air, casting Fiendfyre as they go, until the Jedi are nothing but ash.
Dumbledore didn't use fiendfyre fiendfyre is dark magic and Dumbledore wouldn't need cursed fire he only needed some fire to drive the inferi away.
And as for sidious
Force Power
"I've played along with your Jedi dueling games long enough! Now you will experience my full potency... I live as energy... I am the Dark Side!"
¯Palpatine[src]
In addition to his fighting skills, Sidious was a master practitioner of Force lightning,[14][78] and the only known practitioner of the Force Storm. It should be noted that even though Sidious claimed to be able to conjure a storm with a mere thought, by his own admission he was not able to fully control it. His skills in telekinesis were such that he was able to simultaneously levitate several Senate pods, including the one he was standing on, with incredible dexterity and precision, considering their size and weight.[14] As he could lift himself in the air with the Force, it can be assumed that Darth Sidious also was a master of Force Flight.[85]
Also it was mentioned by Luke Skywalker that the Emperor's very voice had a hypnotic lull to it whenever he was outwardly projecting his dark side Force powers. This could lend weight to the fact that he had considerable mind control powers. As it seems that whenever Darth Vader was in Sidious' immediate presence, he would yield total obedience, not once contradicting his master's orders. But when away Darth Vader would revert to his own individuality. The Emperors own Force of Will was unsurpassed.
Upon spending decades immersing himself in the many facets of the Force, it was believed that he had a mastery over all known powers, previously unknown powers, and could create new abilities on a whim
Wookieepedia
He dood it. In THBP. Just watched it, its in the vid.
Sidious cannot shoot force lightning hundreds of feet into the air he is only shown shooting it maybe ten feet tops. Besides, he'll be too busy dropping and rolling, putting out the flames, to shoot force lightning.
Force flight? crylaugh
Later, time to watch District 9.
Originally posted by Rogue JediIt's the EU dude. He's using EU sources.
He dood it. In THBP. Just watched it, its in the vid.Sidious cannot shoot force lightning hundreds of feet into the air he is only shown shooting it maybe ten feet tops. Besides, he'll be too busy dropping and rolling, putting out the flames, to shoot force lightning.
Force flight? crylaugh
Later, time to watch District 9.
as it says he has a mastery over all known power here are all known powers http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_powers
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He dood it. In THBP. Just watched it, its in the vid.Sidious cannot shoot force lightning hundreds of feet into the air he is only shown shooting it maybe ten feet tops. Besides, he'll be too busy dropping and rolling, putting out the flames, to shoot force lightning.
Later, time to watch District 9.
Oh dear. Watch Revenge of the Sith.
I think Mace disagrees with you.
Also Count Dooku ( A student of Sidious ) cleared greater distances too.
Together with more false assumptions you make about the jedi's defenses.
You may now deactivate your childish, smug OTT sulk mode. 🙂
The Dementors aren't needed. The OOTP aren't needed. All that is needed is Voldemort, Dumbledore, and the Death Eaters. They half apparate around the temple a few hundred feet in the air,
With you so far.....
casting Fiendfyre as they go, until the Jedi are nothing but ash.
Buuuuut you fumble it. Your link proved nothing I'm afraid. The Fiendfyre could have come from another wizard other than Bellatrix, its just that you're assuming it was her becuase its rather good for your argument. For example: The one controlling it could have curved it above the field so as not to set it on fire and ruin the trap for Potter. The one controlling it could have been on a broom. The point is that wizards can't cast spells once half-appparated. Thanks for playing.
And answer my post or face my wrath!
Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, if you had intended for the Dementors to be included from the very start, then Sadako with the first post-reply nailed you right, this is a spite-thread, nothing more. So it should have been closed then and there.Sorry, you can't have your gimp-cake and eat it too, common sense, you know. Either you made a spite-thread on purpose, or you gimped the scenario after you were spanked. Pick.
Still waiting.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Oh dear. Watch Revenge of the Sith.
I think Mace disagrees with you.Also Count Dooku ( A student of Sidious ) cleared greater distances too.
Together with more false assumptions you make about the jedi's defenses.
You may now deactivate your childish, smug OTT sulk mode. 🙂
i just watched Revenge of the Sith last night 😄
btw, merry christmass
Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, they would be. But we've been over that.Listen, if you had intended for the Dementors to be included from the very start, then Sadako with the first post-reply nailed you right, this is a spite-thread, nothing more. So it should have been closed then and there.
Sorry, you can't have your gimp-cake and eat it too, common sense, you know. Either you made a spite-thread on purpose, or you gimped the scenario after you were spanked. Pick.
Thank you sir, I had not noticed this initially, when scanning through the thread at the time, so busy was the pace at the time...for this I apologise.
And yes, I agree, 100%.