Leonidas vs. Achilles

Leonidas from 300 battles Achilles from Troy.

Round 1 - Both have a spear (identical spears), a shield (identical shields), and a sword (identical swords).
Achilles gets his standard gear (Helmet, Breastplate, Greaves, Vambraces & Sandals) Leonidas gets the cape, and his standard gear (Helmet, Vambraces, Greaves & Sandals).

Round 2 - Almost the same as round 1, but this time, Leonidas gets of his 100 Spartans, and Achilles gets 100 of his Myrmidons. The Spartans get their own shields, as do the Myrmidons.
They start 200 m apart. Both sides can have a maximum of 10 archers, though I am not sure if the Spartans had any archers in the movie. If they didn't, they don't here.

They are rested between the rounds.

Who wins?

(Ironically, the second in command of both Leonidas' & Achilles' armies, is played the same dude 😛)

-Achillles

-Leonidas and his Spartans

Same here.

The duel will actually be a good competitive fight though. The battle between the two armies won't. The Spartans were much superior.

Good match. IMO, Leonidas showed more raw power in his fights. Achilles was faster and had better technique. I believe Achilles would win this fight after a semi-lengthy battle.

-Achillles

-Achilles and his men.

The fight would be short.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

-Achilles and his men.

Except his men were just men and didn't do much of anything, while even the lamest of Spartans was protrayed as a bit super-human.

Achilles won't be able to carry his men.

Originally posted by Robtard
Except his men were just men and didn't do much of anything, while even the lamest of Spartans was a bit super-human. Achilles won't be able to carry his men.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually the Myrmidons were the strongest and more feared warriors in Greece at their time.

Going by movie feats, they don't compare to the Spartans of 300.

Brad err Achilles takes the first

Gerard err Leonidas the second

Originally posted by Robtard
Great, they're also likely myth.

Going by movie feats, they don't compare to the Spartans of 300.

Going by feat they alone challenge the greatest archers in Europe with 50 men. In addition, they beaten Hector and his scout or whatever you call them. I wouldn't be surprised if Achilles himself kills like a dozen easily.

I seriously doubt Achilles can kill a dozen Spartans easily. These are far superior to the Trojans he's accustomed to.

Achilles>Spartans>>>>Myrmidons

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I seriously doubt Achilles can kill a dozen Spartans easily. These are far superior to the Trojans he's accustomed to.

Achilles and his 50 soldiers took down the best of Troy in one day.

The Spartans took on the Persians who were weak and scared. They had little armor, hungry and scared.

youre using real world myths and history as proof for a fictional army in a fictional movie that only pays a slight homage to its source material.

no.

Originally posted by Robtard
-Achillles

-Leonidas and his Spartans

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
youre using real world myths and history as proof for a fictional army in a fictional movie that only pays a slight homage to its source material.

no.

It comes down to option and my opinion is that Achilles could kill a hell of a lot of the Spartans by himself.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Oh and Spartans legend is true? Spartans are descendants of Hercules?

Going by feat they alone challenge the greatest archers in Europe with 50 men. In addition, they beaten Hector and his scout or whatever you call them. I wouldn't be surprised if Achilles himself kills like a dozen easily.

The battle of Thermopylae actually happened, granted, it wasn't only 300 Spartans vs the Persians, but it isn't what seems to be just a story that grew into a myth that the Illiad is. This is irrelevant though and it shouldn't be brought up again, as we go by movie feats here.

Again, going by what was shown on screen(not history or myths), Achilles' men didn't do all that much, while the Spartans were nigh super-human. 300 of them stopped thousands of charging men; slammed them back; then killed everyone in that first Persian attack without losing a single man.

The two younger Spartans that had the homosexual-esque thing going on (forget the names), they alone fought and moved similar to Achilles. While Leonidas was a battle tank, he skewered 2-3 guys with one spear throw, hacked off a leg at the thigh with one swipe and did well against that ogre-man.

haermm Ogre man!!!

Originally posted by Robtard
The battle of Thermopylae actually happened, granted, it wasn't only 300 Spartans vs the Persians, but it isn't what seems to be just a story that grew into a myth that the Illiad is. This is irrelevant though and it shouldn't be brought up again, as we go by movie feats here.

Again, going by what was shown on screen(not history or myths), Achilles' men didn't do all that much, while the Spartans were nigh super-human. 300 of them stopped thousands of charging men; slammed them back; then killed everyone in that first Persian attack without losing a single man.

The two younger Spartans that had the homosexual-esque thing going on (forget the names), they alone fought and moved similar to Achilles. While Leonidas was a battle tank, he skewered 2-3 guys with one spear throw, hacked off a leg at the thigh with one swipe and did well against that ogre-man.

Any ways in the movies, more then those two Spartans died. If you look at their fight with the immortals, you can see a lot of the Spartans dying.

Also, the Spartans never fought thousands of Persians. They fought small waves. The only large wave was the Immortals and the Spartans called on the Athenians. Granted, it wasn't many but they played a vital role.

As for the Myrmidons, they did take the beaches of Troy mostly by themselves. By the time the Greek armies reached the beaches, the Victory was already taken by 50 men and Achilles.

As for Achilles, he took down a Giant himself at the Battle for Thessaly (beginning of the movie). Maybe he wasn't as strong as the one in 300, but Achilles had no problem going through him. He threw a spear that went through the skull of his opponent half-way through. He took down like a dozen of Trojans easily.
YouTube video

Look at the fight. Compare it to what Leonidas did or any of the other Spartans. It can't compare. Achilles fought people who knew how to fire an arrow while their comrades fought up front. They knew how to surround and attack. The only scene that can compare is the one with Astinos & Stelios.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Good match. IMO, Leonidas showed more raw power in his fights. Achilles was faster and had better technique. I believe Achilles would win this fight after a semi-lengthy battle.

Not entirely sure if Leonidas has more strength than Achilles. Achilles cut through a statue of Apollo as if it were made of butter.

He's faster than Leonidas though, and arguably more skilled. He can throw a spear far better than Leonidas can.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I seriously doubt Achilles can kill a dozen Spartans easily. These are far superior to the Trojans he's accustomed to.

With the help of his army? He'd easily do so and more.

Originally posted by xJLxKing

As for the Myrmidons, they did take the beaches of Troy mostly by themselves. By the time the Greek armies reached the beaches, the Victory was already taken by 50 men and Achilles.

No, not 50. Lesser than 50. A number of them were killed/incapacitated while they were landing on the beach. Then there's Patrocles who was stuck guarding the ship.

The Myrmidons took care of the first wave by themselves, then had help from Ajax and his soldiers for the second wave.

As for the Persian waves the Spartans fought, some were in the hundreds at least.