I would Achillies in the first
Spartans in the second.
The Spartans were hardcore. They were deadly, fast, skilled, and took on all kinds of things. They killed elephants dang it. And Rhino with a super accurate spear throw to the eye.
As for the Myrmidons, they were good but not compared to what the Spartans went through. Their best feat was taking the beach but it wasn't against an army. It was against a handful of soldiers and archers that were still preparing fortifications while the main army was prepping for battle in the city.
Only when Hector showed up did they seem to go up against any sizable force(Which got split up because Ajaz had landed), and by then they had taken the temple and launched an ambush to take Hector's forces when they entered. The force Hector brought wasn't anything close to numbers the Spartans steamrolled through as well.
Originally posted by Lunacyde
Achilles would win. He was an unstoppable murder machine with superhuman abilities. Even if Leonidas knew his ONE weakness, Achilles outclasses him.
What weakness, being *****-sniped by Paris' o-kay archery skills?
Anyways, Wolfgang's Achilles was up there with the best human fighters in cinematic history...though Riddick and Ozymandias surpass him.
As far as spear throw I don't think Riddick could do better, Ozymandias might could. Achilles was one of the few 1337 perfectly honed killing machines in cinema.
Re: Leonidas vs Achilles
Originally posted by demigodking
Leonidas is raw power and can take more hits. But Achilles is half god not to mention he is fast and agile.
So the battle would go Leonidas dominates in the beginning possible cutting Achilles in the arm then Achilles dodges a hit and finally lands a blow so Achilles dodges and counters multiple times and leonidas after a had and long battle would get tired and achilles would win at the last second.
Achilles kills Leonidas without much trouble. In fact, I having trouble finding any (unenhanced) sword and sandals movie character that can take on Achilles.
As for a fight with their men, I'm undecided. The Spartans definitely had better moves, showed amazing coordination, and their skills were definitely more showcased in their movie. So at first glance I'd say Spartans win.
Then again, I have to consider that the Spartans did have the cover of the pass to work in their favor as they were able to bottleneck the much larger persian army into a tight little space where numbers don't mean much. They also had the advantage of home field and they had ample time to fortify their positions.
The Myrmidons on the other hand had no such advantage. They charged a much bigger army on open ground, with archers raining unhindered down on them. They charged uphill through a fortified beach. In short, they had not even a single advantage and yet they still won. The Spartans had 1 disadvantage which was their smaller number. But everything else was to their advantage.
So yeah, I'm undecided on the army fight. Do you pick the group with the better-looking screen feats or the one with the better accomplishments?
The Myrmidons were portrayed as very average fighters. Not great, not bad. Just OK. The drawback of so little screen time. The Spartans were portrayed as super soldiers-- far superior. But put Achilles in there and it becomes much more even.
His only problem is getting through their shields. Once he does, he'd cut them to pieces. Maybe they should have invested in armor after all. But Leonidas alone? Not even close.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I disputed someone said he was a god not a half god. Get it together.
If Zeus hadn't drawn back his dpecker from Achilles' mom, Achilles would have been full-God, stronger than Zeus and all the Titans before, the strongest in the Mythos according to hype. You know how Zeus is, he must have been pretty damn scared not to procreate Achilles.
Originally posted by DolosThis has got to be a joke post.
If Zeus hadn't drawn back his dpecker from Achilles' mom, Achilles would have been full-God, stronger than Zeus and all the Titans before, the strongest in the Mythos according to hype. You know how Zeus is, he must have been pretty damn scared not to procreate Achilles.