Comic Book Martial Artist Hierarchy

Against Superman to third

I'm against Canary to second.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hilariously enough

No kidding.

The idea of Superman being above a tier above a fighter like Rorschach and in the same tier as Mister Terrific, someone who has blackbelt level expertise in six martial arts is laughable. I'm a Superman fan and I think he's one of the better Fourth Tiers (along with Colossus and Catwoman) but I really don't think he belongs in Third Tier.

However, if someone can provide some evidence of his skills that might make him being in Third Tier acceptable I'll gladly retract this statement and support the drive to bring him to Third Tier.

he used pressure points 😱

Originally posted by Warlord
he used pressure points 😱

That in itself isn't enough.

Mr. Terrific, Catwoman, Huntress... all of these I'd give ten/ten over Superman, or close enough to it.

Also against superman

Against Clark.

For:
1. Tim to second
2. Black Canary to Second
3. Hercules to second
4. Terrific to be moved down

Against:
1. Superman
2. Gamora (should stay is cosmic
3. Against Drax
4. Against Batgirl
5. Against Drakon
6. Against Punisher

Not sure if this was already called to a vote but IMO warlock should be moved down.

I almost over looked that. Why is Warlock uber tier?

Originally posted by dmills
I almost over looked that. Why is Warlock uber tier?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The idea of Superman being above a tier above a fighter like Rorschach and in the same tier as Mister Terrific, someone who has blackbelt level expertise in six martial arts is laughable. I'm a Superman fan and I think he's one of the better Fourth Tiers (along with Colossus and Catwoman) but I really don't think he belongs in Third Tier.

Why? Because Rorschach beat up a couple street thugs? Lawlz.

And I'm sorry, but are we supposed to be impressed with Terrific being a black belt in six martial arts? Considering that's ridiculously tame compared to most comic book martial artists, coupled with the fact that he doesn't have any significant h2h feats, Terrific is lucky to be in the third tier. He's there based on self proclamation alone.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
However, if someone can provide some evidence of his skills that might make him being in Third Tier acceptable I'll gladly retract this statement and support the drive to bring him to Third Tier.

http://img478.imageshack.us/i/supesskillz1eh.jpg/
http://img478.imageshack.us/i/supeskillz22jv.jpg/

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/WorldOfNewKrypton03a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/WorldOfNewKrypton03b.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/superman163a.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/supermanbatmanannual02c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/supermanbatmanannual02d.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/superman215a.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/superman153a.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/ActionComics761a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/ActionComics761b.jpg

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In any case, I'm curious as to why guys like Thor and Orion (2nd tier? lawlz) are above Supes, when both guys are glorified brawlers. About all Thor has going for him is his "THOUSANDZ OF YEARZ OF XPERIENCEZZ!!!11," which I've shown above Superman has too.

These scans were suppose to show that he's above people in the 4th tier and belongs in the company of the 3rd?

For tier between 2nd and 3rd 😄

For Gamora to Uber
For Batgirl to Uber
For Tim Drake to 2nd
For Black Canary to 2nd
For Superman to 3rd

Against Thor to 2nd
Against Hercules to 2nd
Against Constantine Drakon to 2nd

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
These scans were suppose to show that he's above people in the 4th tier and belongs in the company of the 3rd?

When you've got guys like Lobo, Loki, Aquaman, Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Doctor Doom, Hercules, and Kalibak in the third tier, you bet your ass.

Speaking of Kalibak...

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/ManOfSteel116a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/ManOfSteel116b.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/ActionComics814a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/ActionComics814b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/ActionComics814c.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
When you've got guys like Lobo, Loki, Aquaman, Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Doctor Doom, Hercules, and Kalibak in the third tier, you bet your ass.

Speaking of Kalibak...

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/ManOfSteel116a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/ManOfSteel116b.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/ActionComics814a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/ActionComics814b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/teams/ActionComics814c.jpg

You wanna bet on my ass? Are you hitting on me or putting my ass up for the taking if I lose?

Either way that is fair enough, BUT I feel like Lobo, Loki, BRB, Kalibak and Doctor Doom should go down to Supes tier not the other way around. IMO Herc should be above Thor, Supes, Kalibak or the like.

Note: I would like to nominate Lobo, Loki, Doctor Doom, BRB and Kalibak to go down a tier.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You wanna bet on my ass? Are you hitting on me or putting my ass up for the taking if I lose?

naughty

Also, Superman punks Starfire, who's in the third tier...

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/supermanbatman04a.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
naughty

Also, Superman punks Starfire, who's in the third tier...

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Skill/combat/supermanbatman04a.jpg

And on the 'Superman beats up space chicks' theme, don't forget Superman 159.

edit* its 159

Originally posted by Spire
And on the 'Superman beats up space chicks' theme, don't forget Superman 159.

edit* its 159

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/combat/superman159b.jpg