Comic Book Martial Artist Hierarchy

We don't have enough posters to for a percentage based vote tallying system IMO.

A percentage based system is beyond what is needed. The system is fine the way it is.

Are people satisfied with an implied >60% approval/disapproval being the threshold for change/dismissal?

I'm going to update the votes soon, but I won't do an update of the hierarchy just yet. In case there is cause for a tweaking of the system.

A 3 vote majority is enough. So far the current format is self correcting and mostly accurate. If you think a character should move up or down, state your case and live with the results. I did. 🙂

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are people satisfied with an implied >60% approval/disapproval being the threshold for change/dismissal?

I'm going to update the votes soon, but I won't do an update of the hierarchy just yet. In case there is cause for a tweaking of the system.

I think that's about right. Though if one side has better arguments while another has more votes, upping the percentage is reasonable.

Cool, well if an implicit >=60% approval will suffice, then for the most part a 3-vote majority should be appropriate for a change or a dismissal of a proposal. The Gamora vote has crossed the threshold in total number of votes (17), so a 3-vote majority doesn't maintain this criterion, so I'll leave it for more votes... for now.

*Just a reminder to self to add these once a batch of changes has been made.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Note: I would like to nominate Lobo, Loki, Doctor Doom, BRB and Kalibak to go down a tier.

Notes
-The following changes or additions will be made in the next update, unless there's opposition/change in votes: Savant to second, Tim Drake to second, Canary to second.

-The following will be defeated unless there's more votes in favor: Drakon to second, Batgirl to uber, Kingpin to second. Also srank, I'm assuming you're dropping Psylocke replacing Taskmaster in favor of her taking the vacant slot. Also since Q99 has withdrawn his proposal, and there was no other support for it, Twelve Brothers in Silk to third will be defeated.

-I should note that movement of either Canary or Drakon down without replacement will simply result in a vacant DC top tier slot.

-There is a vacant Marvel slot in the top tier.

-Where are people proposing moving Adam Warlock to, if they are proposing moving him?

-Beyond nomination for the Marvel top tier slot can people weigh in on the huge list below, before we move onto any new additions or changes for a bit? Particularly the Old Proposed Changes. I've taken the liberty of casting a few votes on some of the changes I agree with (although in general I'm avoiding voting or nominating changes, as the facilitator of the thread.)

Proposed Additions' Entry Points
Nemesis (Charis Adrastea) to second tier: 1 [Style] /
Kanto to second tier: 2 [Omega, comicfan] /
Mera to third: 1 [Omega] / 1 [comicfan]
Tombstone to fourth: 1 [Omega] /
Juggernaut to fourth: 1 [Omega] /
Faora to second:1 [Omega] /
Catman to second: 1 [srank] /
Savant (BoP) to second: 3 [marwash, Pr, Q99] /
Kang to third: 1 [Bentley] /
King Snake to third: 1 [marwash] /

Old Proposed Changes
Jubilee to third: 3 [Cresh, Q99, Konton] / 4 [llag, Nataku, Blanket, Style]
Kingpin to second: 6 [Ize, V, jrod, srank, capt, Accel] / 9 [Omega, marwash, dmills, Soljer, llag, Macoy, Nataku, Blanket, Style]
Moon Knight to second: 6 [dmills, Ize, llagrok, Fake McCoy, Deadline, Mungi] / 5 [Soljer, capt, endrict, Blanket, YFZ]
Midnighter to second: 3 [Ize, Soljer, Blanket] / 4 [Style, endrict, srank, dmills]

New Proposed Changes
Gamora to uber: 10 [Spire, batdude, marwash, Ize, dmills, Omega, Konton, Q99, jalek, srank] / 7 [Kurupt, galactisishere, Tyrant, ODG, Blanket, Smurph, SuperiorTech]
Constantine Drakon to second: 0 / 5 [Squire, srank, batdude, Phil, Kurupt]
or Drakon to uber: 1 [Q99] / 1 [Pr]
Tim Drake to second: 7 [Spire, Kurupt, Phil, batdude, X, Pr, MM] / 1 [Konton]
Black Canary to second: 7 [Spire, Kurupt, MM, batdude, Omega, Pr, ODG] / 4 [srank, Konton, Omega, Q99]
Ares (Marvel) to second: 2 [ODG, comicfan] / 1 [jalek]
Hercules to second: 2 [Kurupt, comicfan] / 3 [Spire, batdude, jalek]
Gorgon to uber: 1 [dmills] /
Drax to second: 2 [dmills, AlmightyK] / 1 [Kurupt]
Superman to third: 7 [twigg, jalek, Spire, Phil, batdude, Pr, ODG] / 5 [RAGE, Kurupt, Blanket, MM, marwash]
Punisher to second: 4 [YFZ, Deadline, Konton, MM] / 5 [Kurupt, marwash, batdude, Q99, iceman]
Batgirl (Cass) to uber: 3 [Spire, Phil, Omega] / 6 [Kurupt, MM, marwash, batdude, ODG, Konton]
Twelve Brothers to third: 0 / 1 [Konton]
Thor to second: 1 [RAGE] / 3 [Spire, batdude, marwash]
Oracle to third: 2 [ODG, Q99] / 0

Nominations for the Marvel Top Tier slot:
Black Panther: 1 [Trackz] /
Psylocke: 2 [dmills, srank] /
Sabretooth: 1 [dmills] /
Mr X: 1 [srank] / 1 [dmills]
X-23: 1 [Konton] /

P.S. I don't think I've missed any votes, but if I have or have made any mistakes then let me know/repost them.

I think you can safely take down any suggested moves that has no-one for it any more. Free up some space and all.

what has x-23 done to be top tier?

also, for gorgon to uber

Retracting my vote for Gamora to Uber, now I'm just neutral.
I'm for:
Superman for Third
Drax to Second
Oracle to Third
Catman to Second
Psylocke to Top Tier

Against:
Punisher to Second
Thor to Second (unless someone can convince me otherwise)
Hercules to Second
X-23 to Top Tier
BP to Top Tier
Mr X to Top Tier
Sabretooth to Top Tier

I don't think someone should be moved out of (either above or below) first tier without a nomination of who is filling their spot. If Black Canary goes down to second tier, who from DC is moving up? Leaving a spot open is just messy.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm for:
Superman for Third
Drax to Second
Oracle to Third
Catman to Second
Psylocke to Top Tier

Against:
Punisher to Second
Thor to Second (unless someone can convince me otherwise)
Hercules to Second
X-23 to Top Tier
BP to Top Tier
Mr X to Top Tier
Sabretooth to Top Tier

There is only one Marvel top tier spot open... so pick the one character you think deserves that spot, don't vote for them all. lol

Against Gorgon to uber.

Sure he's skilled, but without powers there're people in 2nd tier that would beat him, let alone top tier or uber.

For:

Tim Drake to 2nd
Psylocke to take Marvel's top tier slot

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Against Gorgon to uber.

Sure he's skilled, but without powers there're people in 2nd tier that would beat him, let alone top tier or uber.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
There is only one Marvel top tier spot open... so pick the one character you think deserves that spot, don't vote for them all. lol

if there's only one spot, BP definitely deserves it more than someone like taskmaster.

BP has literally beaten or stalemated most of the marvel characters listed as top tier in H2H

what has psylocke done to be top tier?

Originally posted by Trackz
before he had powers, he took out an army of ninja's blindfolded..that's pretty good

Wasn't he always telepathic due to his mutation?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I was voting against them for Top Tier. Psylocke is my pick.

doh,

I read it wrong. 😮

gamora down a tier