Question: What's logic/reasoning for Black Panther to be in a whole seperate tier than Iron Fist, Captain America, Wolverine, and Daredevil?
Has he not displayed good showings(holding his own) against all. Not trying to be an ass and am not quite sure myself that he should be top tier. Just curious. Cap and him are played out as equals or atleast rivals when it comes to fighting.
Originally posted by Darth Martinhim and daredevil have been as well, he's never been outright beaten by any of the in a straight fight, and has made it apparent he is equal to them.
Question: What's logic/reasoning for Black Panther to be in a whole seperate tier than Iron Fist, Captain America, Wolverine, and Daredevil?Has he not displayed good showings(holding his own) against all. Not trying to be an ass and am not quite sure myself that he should be top tier. Just curious. Cap and him are played out as equals or atleast rivals when it comes to fighting.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Question: What's logic/reasoning for Black Panther to be in a whole seperate tier than Iron Fist, Captain America, Wolverine, and Daredevil?Has he not displayed good showings(holding his own) against all. Not trying to be an ass and am not quite sure myself that he should be top tier. Just curious. Cap and him are played out as equals or atleast rivals when it comes to fighting.
always wondered this, got an answer like "not enough space" or "someone has to be moved down before he can go up" which begs the question, why he wasn't put in the tier in the begining really😬
T'challa > Canary without a doubt, there doesn't have to be equal marvel/dc in the tier if one universe has more top candidates..thats just the way it is.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Question: What's logic/reasoning for Black Panther to be in a whole seperate tier than Iron Fist, Captain America, Wolverine, and Daredevil?Has he not displayed good showings(holding his own) against all. Not trying to be an ass and am not quite sure myself that he should be top tier. Just curious. Cap and him are played out as equals or atleast rivals when it comes to fighting.
To keep this concise I am going to complete disreguard the fact that T'Challa has superior weaponry, armor and equipment and focus soley on his physical abilties.
Physically Black Panther is above peak human. Thanks to the Heart Shape Herb, T'Challa is operating on roughly same level as Captain America physically, and that places him slightly above most streets. Despite his attribute advantage, Black Panther has been represented as more or less the equal of Daredevil every time the two have fought. I supposed it is largely assumed this is due to a gap in skill between the two. If Black Panther was operating on the same level of skill as Daredevil, that coupled with his enhanced physical attributes would he give him a sold advantage any fight. An advantage that he has lacked in their encounters up to this point.
Daredevil can fight on even footing with T'Challa because his skilled advantage is substantial enough to offset T'Challa's strength and speed edge. Captain America on the other hand has held a sound advantage on Daredevil at least 3 times - if Black Panther was as skilled as the first tier fighters he should as well, but he doesn't.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
To keep this concise I am going to complete disreguard the fact that T'Challa has superior weaponry, armor and equipment and focus soley on his physical abilties.Physically Black Panther is above peak human. Thanks to the Heart Shape Herb, T'Challa is operating on roughly same level as Captain America physically, and that places him slightly above most streets. Despite his attribute advantage, Black Panther has been represented as more or less the equal of Daredevil every time the two have fought. I supposed it is largely assumed this is due to a gap in skill between the two. If Black Panther was operating on the same level of skill as Daredevil, that coupled with his enhanced physical attributes would he give him a sold advantage any fight. An advantage that he has lacked in their encounters up to this point.
Daredevil can fight on even footing with T'Challa because his skilled advantage is substantial enough to offset T'Challa's strength and speed edge. Captain America on the other hand has held a sound advantage on Daredevil at least 3 times - if Black Panther was as skilled as the first tier fighters he should as well, but he doesn't.
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Originally posted by Bentley
Those are pretty shaky assumptions IMO. Panther has made skilled and physically superior fighters work for their wins.
So has everyone on this list.
The fact remains the same. Physically Black Panther is superior to Daredevil, yet Daredevil has managed to fight him on even footing time and time again. A skill advantage seems like a logical conclusion. If Panther was top tier skill material he should be able to soundly beat Daredevil, like Captain America has and that isn't something he has shown himself capable of. /shrug
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So has everyone on this list.The fact remains the same. Physically Black Panther is superior to Daredevil, yet Daredevil has managed to fight him on even footing time and time again. A skill advantage seems like a logical conclusion. If Panther was top tier skill material he should be able to soundly beat Daredevil, like Captain America has and that isn't something he has shown himself capable of. /shrug
No it isn't mate. According to you Wolverine is more skillful than DD then why has BP been shown to be more agile than him on two ocassions. Why has BP been able to evade Cap while injured. ABC logic.
When did Cap soundly beat DD?
Originally posted by Deadline
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Which parts do you have objection with?
Black Panther having low level superhuman attributes afforded to him by the heart shaped herb?
or
Black Panther is physically more or less the mirror image on Captain America?
or
Black Panther having been represented as the roughly the equal of Daredevil every time they have fought?
or
Captain America has had sound advantages on Daredevil in at least three different encounters, while Black Panther has not?
You don't like the conclusion I came to from those points? What other conclusion is there?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Which parts do you have objection with?Black Panther having low level superhuman attributes afforded to him by the heart shaped herb?
or
Black Panther is physically more or less the mirror image on Captain America?
or
Black Panther having been represented as the roughly the equal of Daredevil every time they have fought?
or
Captain America has had sound advantages on Daredevil in at least three different encounters, while Black Panther has not?
You don't like the conclusion I came to from those points? What other conclusion is there?
Its ABC logic and when did Cap have a sound advantage? I don't remember that happening.
Originally posted by Deadline
No it isn't mate. According to you Wolverine is more skillful than DD then why has BP been shown to be more agile than him on two ocassions. Why has BP been able to evade Cap while injured. ABC logic.When did Cap soundly beat DD?
Because agility doesn't equate to skill?
Cap left DD unconscious when he (Captain America) was drugged in streets of poison. Pretty much two shotted him IIRC - but Matt did dodged some attacks prior to being put down.
Cap was outfighting DD even though he was holding back and Matt was berserk for some reason (I forget why) in their exhibition match.
Cap had DD pinned when he (Cap again) was mind controlled by Dr. Faustus.
That's off the top of my head. I can't remember if there are any other examples without looking into it.
Originally posted by Deadline
Its ABC logic and when did Cap have a sound advantage? I don't remember that happening.
And what else is there? An arbitrary "who the hell cares" top tier placement for what reason exactly? Based on Black Panther's fights with top tier fighters in conjunction attributes, he doesn't appear to be quite as skilled as the rest of the fighters in the tier.